Vengeance build, help

[Tnf777]

I am looking for some info on the Vengeance build.

I realize that I should max skills Veng for the +damage from cold/fire/light and I should max Conviction for the Lower Resists on mobs to do more damage. But how much should I put into Holy Shield? Being a melee intensive build I'll need the protection, and I still need the Synergies for Vengeance (Fire Res/Light Res/Cold Res/and Salvation)

Gear isn't a problem, it's the skill setup I have questions about.

[Rhd999]

i didnt put many points into my holy shield, and it works fine
5 points is what i put in i think, +skills help it

[saracen85]

depends on how defensive/offensive you want to be..

imo, for a skill intensive avenger, you can get away even with 1 point in holy shield. they are pre-buffable. ie, use a +3pally skills weapon with a hoz and you'll easily get +7 additional skills to holy shield =)

other alternatives include using guardian angel or crafted safety ammy to increase your chances to block.

[safetypro]

I built an Avenger last ladder and only had enough skill points to put about 10 in each resists. I found out afterwards that I should have maxed lightning and not worried about the other resists. Vengence applies equal fire/cold/light damage and then applies extra damage IIRC from the synergy. In this case you'd have more lite dmg than the others which isnt bad. You'll also gain +10 to max passive lightning resist which is certainly helpful considering Gloams etc.

[Tnf777]

Woah, maxing a resist aura gives you an inate +10 max resist?

[saracen85]

it's a passive bonus. look up in arreat summit. some pally auras give passive bonus when hard points are invested into it =)

[Tnf777]

Thank you, this helps a lot

[Tyrrel]

I've made 2 Avengers level 85+, so here's my take:

Forget salvation, even as a synergy. Put 1 pt in it, 5 if you must.

Your gear will eventually catch your resists up, and you want to have convict on at all times when fighting. Truthfully, the only 2 major sources of elemental damage are cold enchanted monsters and Gloams. You can always swap to lightning or cold on these when needed.

Holy Shield is, to me, the best cost / benefit skill for defense. There are no diminishing returns, it's a flat %15 per pt and it really adds up.

If I had it to do over, I'd have my current Avenger (Amroth, l87 US East Ladder) with more in light,cold,fire (currently @ 10 each), and more shield.

[Rhd999]

after level 25 conviction doesn't give any more -resists

[aznmatt001]

4 yr gear, u should use auradin gear.

[dainbramage]

4 yr gear, u should use auradin gear.

All hope is lost for you. Delete your online accounts, uninstall d2 and destroy your CD's please.

[Omnicide]

All hope is lost for you. Delete your online accounts, uninstall d2 and destroy your CD's please.Vouch.

Auradins are trash characters in PvP (and in some NM/all of Hell), and not EVERYTHING is good with said gear.

In fact...that gear puts a LOT of disabilities on a class.