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kenji51590
01-19-2008, 05:59 PM
Anyone know what the bowa weap that can do guided arrows? I've seen qutie a few barbs use those and do good dmg.

saracen85
01-19-2008, 06:06 PM
only widowmaker provides oskill guided arrow.

Ayliffe
01-19-2008, 06:38 PM
Widow's aren't used for damage, they are used to harass defensive players and to proc open wounds, but yes, many bvc's use them, as you don't really have a chance against a good hdin or v/t without one.

Omnicide
01-19-2008, 07:52 PM
A V/T's FoH is somewhat weakened though, so a fully decked BvC should handle it ok. Of course the problem is balancing the defense against the physical smite and the lightning based FoH.

I dunno...I have more problems against a T/V than a V/T.

Bowa barbs have a choice of Windforce or Widowmaker as far as uniques go...but like Ayliffe said...Widow is used more for OW than anything. And WF...ugh...I wouldn't use on a barb.

Ayliffe
01-19-2008, 10:24 PM
Against some V/t's and t/v's you wont need to widow them at all, just tri's, leaps and good teles should get the job done. Of course, dueling a good v/t or t/v you should try to take their foh dmg down as much as possible, then use widow to bring em to you.

Omnicide
01-19-2008, 10:39 PM
True...I've always worked without widow so the range game isn't an option for me. xD

MadMardegan
01-19-2008, 10:42 PM
Ok could someone please explain to me a what a V/T and T/V are. And if it's not too much trouble their basic skill plan. Thanks.

Ayliffe
01-19-2008, 10:42 PM
I dont know how you could kill a really good hdin, or a desync hdin without widow..


edit:

a v/t is a smiter/foher, t/v, foher/smiter.

skill plan looks sorta like this depending on whether they are foh first or smite first

20 smite
20 foh
20 holy shock
20 fanat
1-5 in conviction
rest in holy shield.

again, it depends alot on what they are using more often.

Omnicide
01-19-2008, 10:48 PM
I usually can't do a whole lot to desync hdins because I have no way of knowing where they are. It's about a 50/50 with Hdins. Those and LT smiters seem to give me problems, but then again...they're friggin' LT smiters.

I always based it on which skill was more powerful. D: But that's probably the same as "what's used more often" since...people will use their most powerful skill more. xD

MadMardegan
01-19-2008, 10:50 PM
And LT smiters are?...:p

Omnicide
01-19-2008, 10:55 PM
Smiters that use Life Tap...and Life Tap is BM since it's like a free rejuv.

MadMardegan
01-19-2008, 10:59 PM
Ah yeah. I knew that already...sorry about that.

Omnicide
01-19-2008, 11:01 PM
All good.

Ayliffe
01-19-2008, 11:08 PM
I don't know about other realms, but right now on ESCL there are a TON of LT smiters, I think i might have the only smiter that doesn't tap, and im a ****in v/t. I'm starting absolutely hate pub dueling.

kenji51590
01-19-2008, 11:16 PM
does anyone know what a windomaker is worth?

Omnicide
01-20-2008, 12:02 AM
Pub dueling guarantees BM now Ayliffe...that's mostly why I stopped dueling in public games.

@kenji...You'd be better off asking in the price checking section of the forum.

Ayliffe
01-20-2008, 09:44 AM
does anyone know what a windomaker is worth?

they are very cheap.

Omnicide
01-20-2008, 10:31 PM
Oh really now?

I might just consider getting one then, since before I quit they were considered relatively expensive.

Ayliffe
01-21-2008, 07:51 PM
Nah they're pretty cheap, what realm you on omni?

Omnicide
01-22-2008, 01:24 AM
East NL right now...looking to moving into...um...whichever it is I started on West.

Ayliffe
01-22-2008, 02:28 AM
ah. East ladder here, i cant see em bein all that expensive on NL, its a pretty common unique :)

Omnicide
01-22-2008, 02:36 AM
I thought Widows were ladder only. O_o;

*checks*

Ayliffe
01-22-2008, 02:52 AM
I thought Widows were ladder only. O_o;

*checks*

uniques can't be ladder only....


or am i insane?

Omnicide
01-22-2008, 04:08 AM
You must be insane. O:

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/elite/ubows.shtml

Ayliffe
01-22-2008, 04:50 AM
:O wow i did not know that.

Omnicide
01-22-2008, 07:23 PM
Now you know...and knowing is half the battle!

"G.I.Joe!"

Ayliffe
01-22-2008, 09:11 PM
:)

Omnicide
01-22-2008, 09:45 PM
Wow...I seriously messed that up.