d2.JSP question

[TheUniverse]

why is forrum gold good and what the hell do you do with it? just asking cuz everyone talks about it....:(

[MilkmanAl]

Forum gold is not good. It makes Paul Taulborg rich as crap and perpetuates a terrible website. You use it to perform forum functions and trade with other people. If you value your brain cells, I'd advise abandoning d2jsp immediately.

[Todd]

Eh...

Well Basicly Its Cash you use to buy items And trade with other players... Thats about it....

I guess it can be good For Trading But Since you can BUY Fg Like items Its away a rich person can Be rich in D2 or W/e...But it can Help A Non paying person Build wealth By Having an Item Someone on there REALLY needs and is willing to pay Top Dollar for it And sometimes its alot quicker to find a Trade for the items

Thats about it.

[Immortal_Daemon]

I use JSP quite often.


It's the safest way to trade for D2 (and other games) stuff nowadays, and it's a heck of a lot quicker.

[safetypro]

TheUniverse, the question has been answered so I won't answer it however, it is kind of bad manners to mention other sites (by name anyways) when you are on this site. Please respect the site owner and not refer to other sites unless it is to help someone like pointing them to a build guide or something similar.

[TheUniverse]

Funny thing is, I dont care what site this is. If you cant handle a question about another site thats your own deal. Its a d2 question.

[Immortal_Daemon]

People are trying to be nice and answer your question.

It is pretty rude to ask about another site on a forum.
That's like asking Google what Yahoo is about.


How about not being rude and accepting the answer?
If you really wanna act like that, just go on damn JSP and ask around.

[September 28, 1987]

http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=14273987&f=52

... Enjoy.

[N V]

why is forrum gold good and what the hell do you do with it? just asking cuz everyone talks about it....:(

dont use the site. thats my own honest opinion.

I use JSP quite often.


It's the safest way to trade for D2 (and other games) stuff nowadays, and it's a heck of a lot quicker.

safest? how come someone just got scammed by a "trusted" member then? i usually trade at the dii forum, and never been scammed. but perhaps its just luck. i dont know.

[MadMardegan]

I have recently just started using JSP. A friend of mine uses it a lot and has never been scammed.

[N V]

just be carefull ;)

[Immortal_Daemon]

safest? how come someone just got scammed by a "trusted" member then? i usually trade at the dii forum, and never been scammed. but perhaps its just luck. i dont know.

"Safest" doesn't mean flawless.


Try trading for high-class items (like a Grief or something like that) in D2, and then try it on JSP.


You're way more likely to have good results on JSP.

[N V]

most likely because the "trading forum" on this site barely even crawl. its so slow you could die of old age before trading away all the items on your mules.

i usually trade on Dii forum though.

[MilkmanAl]

D2JSP isn't notorious as a hive of treacherous, whiny people for no reason. There are very, very few people on that site I would even consider trusting, and I would only do so them because I know them from other sites. For all intents and purposes, d2jsp=pubbie Bnet. Would you trust a random person on Bnet with your items? If not, don't trust anyone on JSP. If it's reliable people you want, go to diabloii.net, rpgtraders.net (an offshoot of the former), lld101.net, or the Baron's Bazaar (in my sig). The likelihood of getting screwed at the first 3 is extremely low and absolutely 0 at the Baron's Bazaar.

As for not talking about other sites...wow. Does anyone remember what this place was like before people started bringing in info from other sites? Holy crap. Do remember that this forum exists solely to funnel people into the owner's item stores. As has been demonstrated numerous times, the quality of this forum is of no concern to him as long as people still come here. In fact, he'd probably prefer that people remain ignorant about the game so they don't understand how the item sites acquire their items (duping methods and what amounts to sweat shop labor).

[safetypro]

Well since the doors have been opened, I have accounts at every one of the sites MilkmanAl mentioned (under the same username) except the dueling site. I had done literally hundreds of trades and have never been ripped off once. I've never had a problem at the fg site and while I haven't traded there as often as the aforementioned sites, I have successfully completed trades involving some very valuable items. I'm always cautious and take post counts, guild membership or trade reputation if published, into consideration prior to entering into any trade.
Another good method to ensure safe trading is to establish positive trade relationships and develop a good trade reputation. My trade reputation has always been impeccable and I am proud of that. On some sites I can post an ISO and get half the ISO given to me from friends and people that I have established good trade relationships with. I always remember a kindness and try to return the favor in kind.
I understand the apprehension expressed by some of the previous posters however, trading can be safe and rewarding if done correctly.

[dieuglydie]

The only reason I use JSP is because it's an easier way to trade low, mid items to save up. You don't have to have hr's and know dupe items sitting on a char where there is a chance that they will disappear. Granted there is a chance that you can be screwed over, but that chance is always there. No matter where you trade. Any yes, jsp has there fair share of them, but that's probaly just due to the massive amounts of trading done on the site in the first place. As long as you just think while you are trading, the less chance your gonna get screwed.

[Sophist]

D2JSP isn't notorious as a hive of treacherous, whiny people for no reason. There are very, very few people on that site I would even consider trusting, and I would only do so them because I know them from other sites. For all intents and purposes, d2jsp=pubbie Bnet. Would you trust a random person on Bnet with your items? If not, don't trust anyone on JSP. If it's reliable people you want, go to diabloii.net, rpgtraders.net (an offshoot of the former), lld101.net, or the Baron's Bazaar (in my sig). The likelihood of getting screwed at the first 3 is extremely low and absolutely 0 at the Baron's Bazaar.

As for not talking about other sites...wow. Does anyone remember what this place was like before people started bringing in info from other sites? Holy crap. Do remember that this forum exists solely to funnel people into the owner's item stores. As has been demonstrated numerous times, the quality of this forum is of no concern to him as long as people still come here. In fact, he'd probably prefer that people remain ignorant about the game so they don't understand how the item sites acquire their items (duping methods and what amounts to sweat shop labor).

We only frown on people posting links to sites to prevent advertising. That is more an umbrella type rule in place to keep people posting adverts. You will notice that many of our theorycrafting-related posts link to guides and informative posts on a variety of forums, including Baron's Bazaar. We are not against other sites, we simply do not want to be inundated with advertisements.

This forum does not exist "to funnel people into item sites," it's here to provide a place for the Diablo II community to discuss the game and everything related (or even unrelated). Unfortunately, it's been abused for a while by a small group of people who just want to feel like big fish in a small pond. This has been changing lately, and hopefully it will continue to improve as it has been.

[3DS]

I've used just about every D2 forum based trading site...and I have to say JSP is easily the worst I've ever used. Not only is it full of complete and utter retards, but some of the rules are terribly asinine and the fact that you have to pay to use the search button is just ridiculous. There is not a single person on JSP (besides a few of my friends who use it) that I would trust with even a minor trade transaction.

[TheUniverse]

cool thanks for all your replys =P

[2.0]

I've used just about every D2 forum based trading site...and I have to say JSP is easily the worst I've ever used. Not only is it full of complete and utter retards, but some of the rules are terribly asinine and the fact that you have to pay to use the search button is just ridiculous. There is not a single person on JSP (besides a few of my friends who use it) that I would trust with even a minor trade transaction.Your trading with most of them anyway, if you trade on pubby B.net.

A HUGE majority of people on B.net, also use Jsp.

[xboomx]

how do you dupe? i really need to know,
i keep getting hacked

[Tony]

how do you dupe? i really need to know,
i keep getting hacked

*raises hand* How would knowing how to duplicate items keep you from having your items stolen? Make your password more difficult, or quit downloading crap.

[Omnicide]

Also...why bother duping if your crap is just going to be taken. And even then...what are you going to dupe when you have nothing...unless you keep buying your stuff. And if you do....well....lol.

[Tony]

Also...why bother duping if your crap is just going to be taken. And even then...what are you going to dupe when you have nothing...unless you keep buying your stuff. And if you do....well....lol.

Good point. Although, if you buy your items, I suppose you came to the right forum. x_x

[Omnicide]

Lololol.

I'd laugh horribly if Lewt ended up jacking his account just to sell him the same items.

[Tony]

Lololol.

I'd laugh horribly if Lewt ended up jacking his account just to sell him the same items.

Recursively cost productive? I like the sound of that. Sad thing is, I wonder how many kiddies would actually fall for it...

[Omnicide]

More than we'd expect.

[Tony]

More than we'd expect.

My expectations are quite high, given the quality of players on the game these days...

[Taurean]

I've never needed to use anything else than in-game trading or a very rare time, this forum. Don't see why i should go to jsp.

[PureChaos]

I wouldn't count on the quality of players these days >.< Lots of Hackers, Dupers, and scammers :/ (Uber Leveling Scammers, body popping (People have tried to do that to me 3 times now...), etc...) Not to mention people that try to ruin a genuine UberLeveling... (Also happened 2-3 times to me...)
Luckily, I did manage to find a few really cool friends ^.^

@Taurean's comment: I use the Diii.net trading forums quite a bit. Lots of cool people on there with lots of stuff to trade :D (But I've done most of my trading In-game.)

[SexdUp]

dont use the site. thats my own honest opinion.



safest? how come someone just got scammed by a "trusted" member then? i usually trade at the dii forum, and never been scammed. but perhaps its just luck. i dont know.

If you're a serious PvPer, I'd go for jsp before anything else tbh. It's a lot easier to sell your items and buy items you need. Of course there's some risk, the same people that play diablo that annoy you like no other are the same people that are JSP members, if you trade there long enough you're bound to run into someone atleast attempting to scam you, especially if you're a new member.

I've never needed to use anything else than in-game trading or a very rare time, this forum. Don't see why i should go to jsp.

I honestly don't see anyone establishing a half decent Pvper relying on pub trades. I'd take my chances with jsp before a pub, just trade smart.
I've been scammed of about 1k-2k fg though, mostly with some unperms poofing and not having a way to prove it.

If you're just Pvming though, it's not as big of a "need". Although you can get pretty "rich" hustling on jsp via mfed items.

[Omnicide]

As far as trading...I'd say JSP and in game is about the same as far as the people you'll deal with. No matter what you call it...essentially it's trading. I will agree that you'll get the higher end items for your dueler easier on JSP than making a game on Bnet.

[SexdUp]

As far as trading...I'd say JSP and in game is about the same as far as the people you'll deal with. No matter what you call it...essentially it's trading. I will agree that you'll get the higher end items for your dueler easier on JSP than making a game on Bnet.

I REALLY hope they have major changes in the trading system of d3. As much as everyone on d2 hates wow, you would LOVE the auction house system.

[Omnicide]

I'm not SO against WoW inspired things getting onto D3...as long as the Diablo feel stays so...that's where I stand.

[dainbramage]

Also...why bother duping if your crap is just going to be taken. And even then...what are you going to dupe when you have nothing...unless you keep buying your stuff. And if you do....well....lol.

The dupe programs he downloads just KEEP coming with those pesky keyloggers.

[N V]

If you're a serious PvPer, I'd go for jsp before anything else tbh. It's a lot easier to sell your items and buy items you need. Of course there's some risk, the same people that play diablo that annoy you like no other are the same people that are JSP members, if you trade there long enough you're bound to run into someone atleast attempting to scam you, especially if you're a new member.

Even if you're into serious PvPing you can get what you need elsewhere. It might take some more time, but imo it is worth it to avoid using JSP.

[Omnicide]

Not everything from JSP is duped though...besides...with some of that PvP stuff going well into 500-1k+ fg range....that's a ton of runes to be carrying around for a trade. O_o;

[SexdUp]

Not everything from JSP is duped though...besides...with some of that PvP stuff going well into 500-1k+ fg range....that's a ton of runes to be carrying around for a trade. O_o;

There's items that sell for 20k fg and more. Bvb and Zeal spawns are CRAZY.

[September 28, 1987]

If you're a serious PvPer, I'd go for jsp before anything else tbh. It's a lot easier to sell your items and buy items you need. Of course there's some risk, the same people that play diablo that annoy you like no other are the same people that are JSP members, if you trade there long enough you're bound to run into someone atleast attempting to scam you, especially if you're a new member.

I honestly don't see anyone establishing a half decent Pvper relying on pub trades. I'd take my chances with jsp before a pub, just trade smart.
I've been scammed of about 1k-2k fg though, mostly with some unperms poofing and not having a way to prove it.

If you're just Pvming though, it's not as big of a "need". Although you can get pretty "rich" hustling on jsp via mfed items.

vouch Josh 100% on all this

I hated JSP at the start but you just need to learn who and what to trust. JSP (just like any other online game) is basically about trust. You have your players that will do anything to gain advantage (whether it's scamming for items, using mods/hacks whatever) and then you have your genuine people who are great.

I've never had a serious problem EVER on JSP in over two years because I know who and what to avoid.

Don't buy the mass dupes regardless of who and what it is. The most "trusted" person may be a huge scammer (there's no way to really know). It's all somebody's word and just because an xx amount of people say a person is legit, doesn't always make it so.

There's a million flaws in JSP trading but if you just stick to your needs, it's great. You don't need a 08 Valk, 45 Lifers and all that but most want it. Those items are usually what end up screwing people out of a lot. There's obvious risks but there's also great rewards (you can get wealthy A LOT easier, getting/selling the items you want is MUCH easier on JSP than in-game and the currency is something everyone wants).

[Vile]

Funny thing is, I dont care what site this is. If you cant handle a question about another site thats your own deal. Its a d2 question.

Is it too late for me to call him an a**? =(

[Omnicide]

Never...he was then, he probably still is.

What makes me laugh is that he didn't give a damn what this site was....but sure as **** cared enough to join it for info.

[Tony]

vouch Josh 100% on all this

I hated JSP at the start but you just need to learn who and what to trust. JSP (just like any other online game) is basically about trust. You have your players that will do anything to gain advantage (whether it's scamming for items, using mods/hacks whatever) and then you have your genuine people who are great.

I've never had a serious problem EVER on JSP in over two years because I know who and what to avoid.

Don't buy the mass dupes regardless of who and what it is. The most &quot;trusted&quot; person may be a huge scammer (there's no way to really know). It's all somebody's word and just because an xx amount of people say a person is legit, doesn't always make it so.

There's a million flaws in JSP trading but if you just stick to your needs, it's great. You don't need a 08 Valk, 45 Lifers and all that but most want it. Those items are usually what end up screwing people out of a lot. There's obvious risks but there's also great rewards (you can get wealthy A LOT easier, getting/selling the items you want is MUCH easier on JSP than in-game and the currency is something everyone wants).

I would agree with this. I think the JSP community's largest problem is their ego: the need to get the best of the best. I really only have two qualms with JSP: the currency and the member base. I don't particularly like the fact that Mr. Taulborg can conjure up any given amount of forum gold at will (nor do I care for the fact that he sells online (read: fake) currency for legal U.S. tender (horrible phrasing. lol). I compare it to the hypothetical situation of a government selling Monopoly money to its citizens simply because that's what the people want when they're playing the game. True, it's desired, but that doesn't necessarily make it good practice. The member base is easily adjusted to, though. Just keep your wits about you, and stray as far as possible from the PvP forums (Trophy room and such), and you'll be fine. Not to mention that people seem to judge credibility on post count...which I find both offensive and preposterous... =P

[Omnicide]

I've had fun with regulars being an 06 member and having a low-as-hell post count. Even better when they get logic'd to hell beyond all repair.

[Tony]

I've had fun with regulars being an 06 member and having a low-as-hell post count. Even better when they get logic'd to hell beyond all repair.

I have my old '05 account, but I can't remember the password. =(

[Omnicide]

I made mine to try to trade my items out but....no go...so I quit JSP for a good three years. o;