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powertozelda
01-14-2008, 07:19 PM
Tips for beating or surviving in hardcore mode

Ok, as you may know it's hard to maintain playing HC without dying, I know I've did it, and I must say it's hard. However it also up's your skill allot. Here I will tell you some tips I used to complete the game on HC, from the start of act one to the lofty levels in hell mode, this will surely help you. Although you may know some of these already they are here for people who want, or need help, so spamming this thread is pointless if you know some of these tips already you are probably ok. Anyway lets get started.

Having good reset to magic is vital, having magic and regular damage at your disposable can also make dying less easy to come across. Also remember before you get into any major battles make a portal for an easy escape, or just for easy access of the utility's in town, or too heal you and your party. Since some enemy's in the higher difficulty levels have resistants to magic and some to Physical damage, having some way to do a good amount of damage to your enemy's is something you need when getting to higher difficulty levels. Also resistants, is good to have because over the course of the game you will be hit with and fight allot of enemy's with magic damage. Resistants is vital when playing diablo 2 with any character, having resistants will help just as much as having potions and such. When you reach one of the prime evils you will notice that there main forums of attack is magic and if you want to succeed at all you will need something to lower the damage you take from there attacks. The main reason cold resistants is vital, is because when facing enemy's such as Baal, if he slows you down that can give him time to use more deadly attacks on you, as well as slow you down so you can't retreat to a portal as fast, some times resulting in death. Resistants to all magic attacks will help allot, each type of magic damage has it's own way to effect you, some less worse then the others, but at some point in the game you will run into a monster, that does one or the other in magic damage, so having any way to reduce there damage will help allot.

Although some may think poison is not as bad as cold, however when facing monsters with poison being hit over and over wile poisoned can bring your life down fast, thus resistants to poison can help also, same go's for the other form of magic attacks. Another thing that people forget is to be alert, some times running into a room with allot of monsters can get you trapped, and if trapped and get hit multi times can result in a fast, and bad death. Be alert, draw the enemy's out one at a time if you have to. Defense is good too, remember that in HC mode imbuing and socketing items is important, using your imbue to early is not smart, because each act you progress you will find better items, some times find better items then the one you imbued, thus you'll have little need for that item anymore. I know most people can't save it to long without going insane, but if you want to be successful hold on to it for awhile. Hirelings are a big part of staying alive too, although sometimes they get in your way they can take some of the focus off you, witch is a good thing. Also if you pick a hire from act 1 or 3 cold type would be your best bet, slowing your enemy's down is a big help.


Necromancer tips
If your using a Necromancer, always have a golem by your side, along with iron maiden, thus you can sit back will a group of monsters hit your golem with iron maiden on the enemy's they take there damage back. If your golems life is getting low from being hit so much make another by the group, also when you spawn a fire golem it does damage as well. Using every possible way of damaging enemy's will help you allot, just as portals will too. Making a portal can give you easy access to life in town. Wile the enemy's are hitting your golem make a portal when your golems life gets low portal back and fully heal him you, and your party then go back through the portal and repeat this until the monsters are dead. That trick can save your life, and keep you and your party healthy. Also poison nova can help all the way to the end. If you find a monster who is immune to poison use lower resistants to make it effect them, the more points you have in lower resist the more damage your poison attacks will do. Having fast or fastest run walk helps allot, it will allow you to run fast, thus making it easy to run up to a group of monsters and use poison nova, run away and come back and do it again until your enemy's are dead and the good thing is, not only will you get allot of exp, items but you can stay out of danger and harm groups of enemy's at a time.

I recommend putting some point into vitality, and getting items that give you life. Having a good amount of life never hurts, in fact thats one of the reasons I was able to succeed the game on hardcore mode with the necromancer. Having a good amount of life helps allot, because the monsters is hell mode do allot of damage, having enough life to stand up or temporarily defend yourself against there attacks long enough to escape or defeat them will give you and edge. An in diablo 2 having a little edge can go along way.
Strength for the necromancer does little if you don't have allot, since I rarely fight enemy's as I would with the barbarian the only thing I need strength for is to be able to wield certain items and use good armor. Another thing is, if you reach nightmare mode and want to find strong armor. Go to act 4 the pandemonium fortress, go to the guy that repairs and sells items look at his armor, if he does not have anything good save and try again or walk out of town and back in thus reseting the item list, until he has some good "Godly type armor" that you can buy. If you find 3 small rejuvenation potions, turning them to full rejuvenation potions can give you an edge will fighting diablo or other boss type enemy's. Because his lightning inferno takes damage down fast having rejuvenation potion's can bring it up fast and give you a chance to land in some good shots, it's risky though...

Barbarian tips
When using the barbarian there is up sides and down sides, likewise for the other characters to. Although powerful, you may have some trouble. For instance when fighting the minions of destruction, you may have a hard time.
Because they stun you and do allot of damage and have allot of life fighting them all at once is really hard. Use leap attack, try to draw them away from the group one at a time. Putting skill points in natural defense/resistants can help. Also using moves such as bash can make your attack faster. Equip bash to your right hand skills and leap or leap attack to your right hand for a good jump attack combination. Also making a portal before you go into battle can make for a easy escape with the barbarian. If your in trouble leap over to the portal and go heal or fix yourself up, and prepare for another attack "if you choose". Early in the game start out with bash, figure out what kind of items you feel your going to use and add skill points to it thus upping your attack and etc. for that type of weapon. Also using bash with a slow item can make the attack speed faster, and better aim wise. If you get trapped in a group of enemy's damaging you it can be a fast death, thats why I stated not to be reckless, don't run into a room unprepared. Because of a big chance of getting stuck in the middle of enemy's attacking you from all over you must slowly check out the room. Like stated above, having life and good resistants can help allot in the diablo 2 universe.


I'll update this later

N V
01-14-2008, 08:33 PM
do you play LoD or classic? dont know about classic, but in LoD i would definitely use act 2 nm def merc. it freeze enemies better than a1 or a3 merc and can on top of that freeze cold immune monster which will be GREAT help.

also you might want to add that using antidotes and thawing potions is a great way to get max res in the respective element and also remove cold/psn affect on you or your merc.

ALWAYS have full tps and ALWAYS have tp tome on a hotkey or maybe a scroll or 4 in the belt. i usually just use the hotkey, since i have used that since i played sp, and when need be i am able to change for tp really fast.

always improve items, even at lower lvls. buy new equip (even if you will find it an act later anyway). dont save your gold, shop for items, pots, scrolls, gamble, everything to get new equip for you and your merc.

just a few things i picked up during my last days playing HC :)

powertozelda
01-14-2008, 10:01 PM
do you play LoD or classic? dont know about classic, but in LoD i would definitely use act 2 nm def merc. it freeze enemies better than a1 or a3 merc and can on top of that freeze cold immune monster which will be GREAT help.

also you might want to add that using antidotes and thawing potions is a great way to get max res in the respective element and also remove cold/psn affect on you or your merc.

ALWAYS have full tps and ALWAYS have tp tome on a hotkey or maybe a scroll or 4 in the belt. i usually just use the hotkey, since i have used that since i played sp, and when need be i am able to change for tp really fast.

always improve items, even at lower lvls. buy new equip (even if you will find it an act later anyway). dont save your gold, shop for items, pots, scrolls, gamble, everything to get new equip for you and your merc.

just a few things i picked up during my last days playing HC :)I play LOD, the trick is too get a hireling and raise it up as they go along with you.

N V
01-15-2008, 05:58 AM
the merc really helps out if you lvl him with you. also depending on build, you can end up relying almost only on the merc for kills until your main attacking skill becomes availaible.

and thought you where classic because of.....

Having fast or fastest run walk helps allot

in LoD you have %frw and not fast, fastest and those things. if i remember right, that's what is used on classic

Chaospanzer
01-15-2008, 11:04 AM
eastiest way to survive mate is to stay away from pub games as its only a matter of time before you get tppked.
also ive read some of your tips for barbs to deal with minions of destruction: Most people including myself use warcry to stun them and battle cry to lower their defence and damage for a short period of time as well as using either beserk or whirlwind to kill them quickly also with most builds you need as much vitality as possible to get the most out of battle orders.

powertozelda
01-15-2008, 05:54 PM
the merc really helps out if you lvl him with you. also depending on build, you can end up relying almost only on the merc for kills until your main attacking skill becomes availaible.

and thought you where classic because of.....



in LoD you have %frw and not fast, fastest and those things. if i remember right, that's what is used on classicSee, I played the orignal diablo 2 up untill I beat it then inverted it to LOD. Becuse you can gamble for set items on d2, and not lod, I gambled, got some good set items, including "rite to passage demonhide boots" witch gives you fastest run walk, I also have the "charm of intara", witch also gives me fastest run walk;)

I use faster run speeds so that I can run in and use poison nova faster...
When playing the necromancer.

N V
01-15-2008, 06:29 PM
ok. i think you can gamble for sets in LoD too though. im fairly sure i gambled an angelics ring sometime.

anyway sanders rip rap is better than rite of passage if i remember correctly. rite gives 20 frw while sanders give 40.

powertozelda
01-16-2008, 06:37 PM
ok. i think you can gamble for sets in LoD too though. im fairly sure i gambled an angelics ring sometime.

anyway sanders rip rap is better than rite of passage if i remember correctly. rite gives 20 frw while sanders give 40.Well, you actuly can't gamble for set items in LOD, they took that off and added gambling depending on level. Well, I upgraded from that to a uniqe type boots.

With:

5-strengh
5-dext
Faster run/walk
10-20 all Resist
and etc.
However I have a charm that gives me fastest run walk too.

Yeah, sucks they took off gambling for set items, however when you play d-2 then upgrade to LOD later you have time to gamble for set items.

®@þþ3¬
01-16-2008, 06:54 PM
To sum all HC tips up...

Dont die!

powertozelda
01-16-2008, 06:57 PM
To sum all HC tips up...

Dont die!An this helps anyone how?

®@þþ3¬
01-16-2008, 07:00 PM
An this helps anyone how?

As long as you dont die you can play HC?

powertozelda
01-16-2008, 07:02 PM
As long as you dont die you can play HC?Thats true, however if you get up to HC mode you should already know that.

Also the reason for my tips are to help you not die:p

®@þþ3¬
01-16-2008, 07:05 PM
Thats true, however if you get up to HC mode you should already know that.

Also the reason for my tips are to help you not die:p

Apparently my joke didnt get through :D

HF m8 ;)

Pigeon Poop
01-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Well, I haven't played SP in many years. There is just too much fun to be had playing in parties on the realms. Playing HC on the realms requires a slighty different approach.

Of course, not dying is the biggest factor to successfully bringing up a HC character through its levels. It isn't just about knowing when to run when facing a particular monster, there is also the element of the dreaded PK when playing in public games.

Tips or not, it is all about surviving. One wrong move and it's all over, regardless of how well you follow a guide. Total awareness is key. Without it, you're dead and starting over.

I admit, I was totally against playing HC due to my level 20-30 characters being Pked by level 80s. Pointless. Since, I have started a new character, and I must admit, it is a lot of fun. I play mostly in public games to level quicker, and I only go private for the end quests. My gear is pure crap, and I am still waiting for some decent uniques to drop.

Rappel has it right. There is only one tip to HC:

Dont die!

powertozelda
01-16-2008, 08:02 PM
Well yeah that is not really a tip, mainly the truth.

However there is many diffrent ways not to die, however what I stated is also a few ways you can ensure longer life in HC.

arctic17
01-16-2008, 09:32 PM
Nice job Power on the tips. I've also got a few that I personally have always used and encourage my friends to do.

1. When playing in open areas work along the walls. This avoids monsters from surrounding around you.

2. If/When playing public games try to avoid common wps to avoid pkers.

3. When playing with groups stay with them. This helps keep you and them alive.

4. When playing in groups with a higher lvl, Let the higher lvl lead so you don't die.

5. When sending tp's for others Say 1 for safe and 2 for non safe. and Be patient when waiting for a tp.

6. When fighting unique monsters pay attention if they are Cold Enchanted and Fire enchanted. This may help save your life by staying back when they die.

7. When playing alone don't venture into areas that may be risky for you.

8. If in a public game and someone hostiles a hotkey you can use is ALT + F4 This closes out the game completely but atleast you keep your character right?

I know some of this most already know but just thought I'd mention it for those who don't. No one has to listen one way or the other just wanted to throw some other tips in there. Gl with your gaming all. :cool:

powertozelda
01-16-2008, 11:29 PM
Nice job Power on the tips. I've also got a few that I personally have always used and encourage my friends to do.

1. When playing in open areas work along the walls. This avoids monsters from surrounding around you.

2. If/When playing public games try to avoid common wps to avoid pkers.

3. When playing with groups stay with them. This helps keep you and them alive.

4. When playing in groups with a higher lvl, Let the higher lvl lead so you don't die.

5. When sending tp's for others Say 1 for safe and 2 for non safe. and Be patient when waiting for a tp.

6. When fighting unique monsters pay attention if they are Cold Enchanted and Fire enchanted. This may help save your life by staying back when they die.

7. When playing alone don't venture into areas that may be risky for you.

8. If in a public game and someone hostiles a hotkey you can use is ALT + F4 This closes out the game completely but atleast you keep your character right?

I know some of this most already know but just thought I'd mention it for those who don't. No one has to listen one way or the other just wanted to throw some other tips in there. Gl with your gaming all. :cool:Nice job!

An number 6 is a really good thing to do, I wait for there life to get low and let my hire beat them so I don't take big cold or fire damage.

Karma for you!

Veneteaou
01-21-2008, 10:07 AM
Guides for HC do exist for people who want to raise their level of play, like the following:

http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=d2-general&t=1318430&p=1&#post1318430