Would D3 get bigger then wow

[JEROME_G7]

Will d3 ever get bigger then wow in the future?

[Omnicide]

Unless WoW gets scrapped in the future...no.

[Vile]

If you mean by popularity, there's a possibility. Many, many people have been waiting for D3 for years. Not only will older D2 players most likely begin playing, but so will new players, WoW players, and people who've never played D2. Unless, of course, D3 is a failure. Then you can say good-bye to all those players and we continue the WoW reign.

[Immortal_Daemon]

I can't imagine that D3 will overthrow WoW.

It's too different and niche to take out such a large player base like WoW's.
Not only that, but they've changed it enough from D2 that D2 players may not want to stick around with it. Combine that with the fact that many D2 players are no longer interested in games, since they're now much older, and you've got a game that most likely will not beat WoW.

[theOG22093]

>10mil play wow, you aint topping that for another decade atleast.

[Omnicide]

Not to mention WoW caters to many tastes outside of just hacking and slashing...gambling...crafting...etc.

It's simply got a lot more to offer than Diablo.

[theOG22093]

Not to mention WoW caters to many tastes outside of just hacking and slashing...gambling...crafting...etc.

It's simply got a lot more to offer than Diablo.

Have you played it yet? IMHO, anyone that has played diablo will find the way you have to GRIND level VERY boring. I miss rushes :O

[Omnicide]

I refuse to play WoW.

And people seem to think that rushes are the way to go in leveling. Diablo is about the ONLY game where I could speed level. So the whole grinding thing doesn't bother me ONE damn bit.

Hell...I hope they fixed that in D3 just to piss some people off.

[theOG22093]

I refuse to play WoW.

And people seem to think that rushes are the way to go in leveling. Diablo is about the ONLY game where I could speed level. So the whole grinding thing doesn't bother me ONE damn bit.

Hell...I hope they fixed that in D3 just to piss some people off.

Ya I could get used of in d3, where there's new **** but the quests on wow are quite boring as well, some of them are cool though.

[fasteddie]

na people will still go to there crappy wow

[Nektu]

I refuse to play WoW.



I feel the same way. I just don't see why I should pay a monthly fee to play a game that I purchased.

But there are some people I know that love World of War crack. I'm looking forward to D3.

[Omnicide]

It's not even the pay to play that bothers me about WoW. It's how long it took them to even announce a new Diablo compared to putting out this monster of an MMO. Granted....the changing of the team is to blame...but it doesn't change the fact how long it took Blizzard to give us hope for a continuation.

[chainsoar]

I don't like WoW for a whole gamut of reasons, pay to play being only one of them. I hope D3 turns out to be more popular, because maybe then it'll put that hideous wreck of an MMO to rest once and for all. To be fair, I think pretty much all MMORPGs these days suck, it's not just WoW that I dislike. They're all the damn same.

[Omnicide]

A one-time-pay thing like D3 isn't going to overthrow WoW.

People need to stop thinking that's what's going to happen.

If D3 is to overthrow WoW...it has to do what WoW does and more.

[SexdUp]

It's not even the pay to play that bothers me about WoW. It's how long it took them to even announce a new Diablo compared to putting out this monster of an MMO. Granted....the changing of the team is to blame...but it doesn't change the fact how long it took Blizzard to give us hope for a continuation.

It actually doesn't bother me that much that it took so long to get this far and how long it's going to take to finish it. I'm just really glad there's going to be another ^^
Been looking over the barbarian stuff, and unless the other 2 classes wow the **** out of me I'll probably end up going barb.

There's some really nice screenshots on the main site.

A one-time-pay thing like D3 isn't going to overthrow WoW.

People need to stop thinking that's what's going to happen.

If D3 is to overthrow WoW...it has to do what WoW does and more.\

Which won't happen because of the crowd an rpg atracts compared to an mmorpg.

[Anne-ts]

Well.. no..

becuz, people who likes wow actually are those who started playing WC1-3 + the expansions,
some might say D2 would pass, but i dont think so anyway, i gotta admid that even if the d3 looks cool and new stuff and chars. but.. i will differently miss all the old stuff back in d2, i dont think that d3 is going to get all attentions, i dont think that im the only one that actually would keep playing d2..

[rcosent]

I think that this is not a matter that can be easily answered by either yes or no.
On one hand, you have Diablo, a tradermark RPG series, utmost accomplished, w/ thousands of players that keep loyal to the game even after years and years of its original release. That last fact, by itself, if we consider that no significant update w/ changes in the gameplay were released on any of the patches (besides Ubber Quest, which is not really a big change), is STRONG. How many expansions, with material change (new environments, terrain, animations, dungeons, tons of items, ect) are you used to see for the current MMOs? Yes, tons... Diablo never had one of those since LOD and, yet, it still remains as one of the most popular games around, w/ very loyal followers - how usual is it to see D2 players that are out there for more than 5 years? Pretty common, I guess. We all play intensively, get a bit bored, pause for some months and, inevitabily, come back when a ladder resets or we feel that we miss powning some demons (ok, I got a bit passionate here, I admit hehe).

On the other hand, you have WoW. Currently the top commercial MMORPG around. Backed by the warcraft series, also utterly accomplished, and sustained by blizz w/ constant updates (given its monthly fees - the game is currently Blizz's cash pot).

You noticed I didn't talk much about Wow. Thats because I played it for a couple days, only, w/ a free pass for 10 days play. Don't know much about the game.

My honest opinion here is that D3 will indeed be huge, while gathering old timers (which tend to be loyal to the series) and newcomers (young ones that, having WOW, don't bother w/ D2's old graphic engines at the moment). But I understand both games to be oriented by Blizz for different purposes...

Cheers!

[Dlav123]

you know whats funny? We all talk about our hate for WOW or how we will nvr play it. But i bet all the people that play WoW talk the same about D2 and D3

I dont know if im the only one that thinks that is funny but it kinda is.

Also i purchased WoW and i played it for a month for 20$ and i definitly was kinda disapointed for 20 dollars a month. Seriusly... 240 dollars a year for a 12 yr old is quite alot. Also D2 ... You just buy and play f/e
And there are many mods that edit the game and make it a much different experiance. All for 40 dollars.
Just to name a few mods

hell unleashed
median xl
eastern son.

All thos change monsters...Skills....and some make some super challages which is really cool


Im kinda talking alot of nonsense so i will stop now.

[Daventry]

It's the same company, might as well say we won't play Starcraft either, heh.

[Omnicide]

Eh the only reason I say I won't be touching WoW is because it kinda took from Diablo and...at the time as far as we knew, D3 would never happen. To me, WoW killed Diablo at that point.

[SexdUp]

Eh the only reason I say I won't be touching WoW is because it kinda took from Diablo and...at the time as far as we knew, D3 would never happen. To me, WoW killed Diablo at that point.

Rogue so fun, I stealth joo!

[Omnicide]

WoW classes have no effect on Diablo classes. D<

[Beckatitis]

YES! ... HEHEHE. I never did like WoW.. It was a choice between WoW and Diablo.. I chose Diablo. However, I barely remember how it looks.. I was just fed up with it after a few minutes and decided to play Diabolo, as I called Diablo back then.

... Who knows. o_o

[Sir.Booo]

I refuse to play WoW.

And people seem to think that rushes are the way to go in leveling. Diablo is about the ONLY game where I could speed level. So the whole grinding thing doesn't bother me ONE damn bit.

Hell...I hope they fixed that in D3 just to piss some people off.


ha! ha! that would piss a lot of people off, i bet that would lead to the failing of the game!!!

[Omnicide]

ha! ha! that would piss a lot of people off, i bet that would lead to the failing of the game!!!Not really. It just means people would have to work for it instead of finishing their characters in a day or two. *shrugs*

[Dbane]

Possibly it may overtake Wow if Blizzard advertises the hell out of it like it does Wow.

[Meeks]

Can't say that I've read the entire thread, but I personally doubt D3 would get as big as WoW. D3 just seems to have that cult following. Many newb players won't stick around because of the overlay, which I absolutely love.

[Taurean]

Diablo is more balls (baals) to the walls than wow. It throws you right in the action.

[Nodoka]

Without even knowing what D3 will be like compared to D2 Id say no. Diablo2 and WoW are totally different games. But if they made a diablo mmorpg like WoW it would make the question alot more difficult to answer.:P

[Zero]

Nah, Diablo could never pass WoW. WoW is an interesting game though. Huge lands, so many places that you can explore. But, leveling sucks and the fighting in the game is pretty lame. If it had Diablo like fighting, it would easily be the best game ever made I believe.

[Taurean]

If it had Diablo like fighting, it would easily be the best game ever made I believe.

Best point of the year so far

[Ranluf]

Really i dont see how Tabularasa didnt stay popular it was half the price a month, and i think it was more fun then WOW. But i dont think D3 will ever get bigger then WOW. I do wish it would though, WOW just never interested me. Tabularasa all the way!!

[vegamite]

Never, the ppl i talk to on wow said they want to play it.. and they'll put there gearpeens down for a little while, especially if it's after W/E end game Raid is on farm, but as soon as the goody is gone from D3, they'll be back to WoW.

[AOneWingedangel]

The WoW players will stick with WoW, the only way they wouldn't is if D3 was developed to be and MMORPG like WoW. But then we really wouldn't want to be playing it, would we?

[Duskofdead]

Really i dont see how Tabularasa didnt stay popular it was half the price a month, and i think it was more fun then WOW. But i dont think D3 will ever get bigger then WOW. I do wish it would though, WOW just never interested me. Tabularasa all the way!!

Poor marketing, and the fact that Blizzard wasn't the name of the developer. Utterly no offense to anyone here, as I myself played D1, D2, Starcraft and a stint of WOW, but there is a rather huge population out there of utterly adoring fanboys who will swear any title is the most fun/awesome/wonderful/life-changing-experience game ever, without even playing it yet (in the case of D3/SC2) simply because it's by Blizzard.

I'm a bit of the odd man out, I think Blizzard really had a novel thing (style, originality, great atmosphere, etc.) going with D1, and almost everything after that became more and more clearly designed around mass marketability than anything else. I liked D2's gameplay but in terms of the style/feel, it was very lighthearted and comic bookish/cartoonish compared to D1.

I just get pain in my temples when I used to hear people in WOW go on and on about how WOW and all Blizzard games just had utterly fantastic original plot and storylines. To me, Blizzard's strength is addictive gameplay and huge marketability, but as far as their games, Starcraft was like a generic tongue in cheek RTS of the "Alien" movies, WOW just has terrible overwrought plotlines with unpronounceable villain names that seem like they came out of a fantasy name generator and borrows tons of storylines from other Blizzard games (I'm pretty sure Sylvannas of the Forsaken, for example, even uses the same voice actress as Kerrigan from Starcraft, on top of the fact that they are virtually the same good character turned evil storyline) and other fantasy as well, on top of a lot of real life movie and television references thrown in humorously. The only one I really thought was truly original and not a generic hodgepodge of things meant to appeal to mass market gamers was Diablo 1.

I am approaching D3/SC2 with a great deal of circumspect "let's wait and see." So many people have already prejudged simply from the moment they heard the news that they were in development that they were going to be the golden messiahs of gaming and would redefine the meaning of everyone's lives when they finally come out--- which is pretty much how Blizzard fans anticipate almost any Blizzard release, honestly, even without knowing a thing about the gameplay or whether the game will have fees or whether it will be an MMOized grindfest or whatever. To me these are games made by a totally different Blizzard than the one that made Diablo 1 and Starcraft, this is over a decade later and a bigger, bloated, more marketing driven Blizzard that has grown fat off World of Warcraft and dominating the MMO market by an enormous factor for almost all of the intervening years. It's no longer the relatively small cutting edge unique game designer shop people seem to conceptualize it as from its early days. Especially when I hear what costs may be involved, either in the initial full game purchase or in the possibility of regular mandatory DLC or monthly fees, it's very easy to tamp down any little bits of excitement I have, because given the volume they will almost certainly sell of these titles, it seems unnecessarily greedy when I hear this talk about how SC2 may be a nearly 100 buck purchase or that D3 may have subscription fees or whatever. If they've gotten too fat on the WOW gravy train to subsist on a lighter diet, then they probably aren't the kind of dev making the kind of games I'd want to sink lots of time in anymore. So that's why I'm waiting and seeing first.

[Omnicide]

I always take a "wait and see" approach before diving into something. I mean from what I saw of D3 thus far I'm not disappointed, but I'm still waiting for those things that pop up that could change my opinion of it.

[barbsarebest]

I always take a "wait and see" approach before diving into something. I mean from what I saw of D3 thus far I'm not disappointed, but I'm still waiting for those things that pop up that could change my opinion of it.


likewise...but im worried that i might be a bit disappointed by it simply because i've been anticipating it for so long and after d2 my expectations are pretty high

[Omnicide]

I judge games separately...never as a basis of their prequels or such. If a game is going to be good...it has to be good on its own...and not just because the last one was good.

[Duskofdead]

I judge games separately...never as a basis of their prequels or such. If a game is going to be good...it has to be good on its own...and not just because the last one was good.

I think he meant the opposite. It's hard to like a game that is not as good as its predecessor, even if from "universal standards" it's a really good game. Especially if great time passes and you have a built up idea of how cool a sequel would be over the years.

For example, I couldn't stand AOE III. Not really because there was something awful or broken about it, but because it simply wasn't to AOE II what AOE II had been to AOE I. Not nearly as much of a "wow, this is awesome" factor, comparatively.

[Omnicide]

That's kind of what I'm talking about too. When you expect something like that...you're bound to be disappointed at some point. I mean...look at the Megaman series? lol...not much changed with those besides level layout and the powers...nothing really "advanced" from one sequel to the other.

*shrugs* Like I said...I don't judge games on their counterparts.

[cs_hartke]

I use to play WoW for quite sometime (about maybe for a year or so) but i quit playing it about maybe 4 or 5 months ago with it always seeming to be the same crap everytime i played it just in a different dungeon. i just got sick of the "ok where going to raid this place till it's on farm then go the next, and you have to play this way because we said so" type of thing gets really old after awhile. I never played diablo 2 when it was released ( i actually didn't know it was out untill about 6 years after it's release >.> ) so i play diablo 2 now to fill up that gap in my free time... both games i think have there pros and cons, while diablo might not have as good of graphics as wow did i find the action and and leveling up to be alot more of an enjoyable exspirence then wow offered me. and i have a few extra bucks in my pocket at the end of the month, always a good thing :)

[xxGuitarRemixx]

Diablo Can run on most systems
WoW cannot.

Diablo is free
WoW is not

Diablo is more dark and evil.
WoW is cartoony.

Diablo Is Legend
WoW is Myth

Sorry sorta through that together. I think D3 will overpower WoW for a while, its creating a huge hype about it and everyone is ready for it. Its been 10 years since a Diablo release, forgetting the v13 patch. But I think D3 will take over WoW, but again that all depends on the online capabilities. For WoW is excepptional for its online usage.

[Per_Killer]

For god's sake, is FANS of Diablo going to compare Diablo3 to WoW too now?! I freakin hope Blizzard (Although the geniouses behind Diablo 2 left Blizzard long time ago) look to -DIABLO- when making this game, not World of Warcraft.

World of Warcraft isn't good, it's popular. Just like the cookie-cutter bull****, streamlined, american, plastic pop-music that you'd be forced to listen to anytime you turn on the radio. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good.

By the looks of things, Blizzard has just become a money-making machine, and so far ingame footage of D3 looks crappy. Same WC3 cartoon-graphics as they've been tossing out games with ever since masses of kids started jerking off to their games' accessability.

Let us hope they let WoW be their money-machine, and aim to make Diablo 3 a -GOOD- game instead of a happy-go-lucky, aimed-at-all-the-gamers-in-the-universe kind of game.

D1 and D2 truly had a dark athmosphere, which was awesome. And it had close bonds to the roguelike genre. Lets hope D3 doesn't get close to WoW, but become a great game instead.

[Omnicide]

Considering I doubt the footage will change from what you've seen...I think you'll be disappointed if you're basing everything on "OMG NOT WOW".

Either way I'm happy with what I've seen and plan to play. Because as much crap as everyone has said of WoW....WoW took a lot from Diablo as well.

[xxGuitarRemixx]

I think Diablo is one of a kind, I just hope they don't stray too far away from what made D1 and D2 great.

[.rhY]

No way, I think WoW will always have the MMORPG upper hand.

Just because it's so massive and so much to do in that game, It's near impossible to get bored with all the different things you can do.