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geoffdotson5
07-22-2008, 10:19 PM
Hi I was looking for gear on the trap build and was wondering how an infinity would do with a LS trapper. If any one has any experience can you let me know what u think of the infinity instead of a hoto.

gN-subleader
07-23-2008, 02:20 AM
i think it wud suck. some ppl use it. but dunno why

i mean
its you
ur shadow
+ ur merc. u can add a infinity to ur merc

but if u want more enemy -lite res. u can use a NON-ETH CA infinity (low str+dex) so it wud be good...

u mite get a reply from Omnicide. and tht wud be much better. lol

Rhd999
07-23-2008, 03:02 AM
Why not use any infinity? The Light rez wil definately help. But put it on your merc, not you.

Legendary Slasher
07-23-2008, 03:34 AM
Yea i made pure light rapper, merc using the Infinity and its more then enough to help you out big time!

theOG22093
09-22-2008, 11:08 AM
i think it wud suck. some ppl use it. but dunno why

i mean
its you
ur shadow
+ ur merc. u can add a infinity to ur merc

but if u want more enemy -lite res. u can use a NON-ETH CA infinity (low str+dex) so it wud be good...

u mite get a reply from Omnicide. and tht wud be much better. lol

I think he meant with it on your merc...
Seems Omni has a fan.

mephiztophelez
09-24-2008, 12:37 AM
you guys do know that -% enemy lit res DOES NOT WORK WITH TRAPS don't you?

the conviction will have full effect for a trapper, but the extra -25% lit res is useless regardless of if it's you holding it or your merc.

in any case, infinity mercs are gfg for PvM, infinity on the trapper himself in PvP is begging for death.

theOG22093
09-24-2008, 02:54 AM
you guys do know that -% enemy lit res DOES NOT WORK WITH TRAPS don't you?

the conviction will have full effect for a trapper, but the extra -25% lit res is useless regardless of if it's you holding it or your merc.

in any case, infinity mercs are gfg for PvM, infinity on the trapper himself in PvP is begging for death.

Ahh ****. I was told only the %damage doesn't work?

mephiztophelez
09-24-2008, 03:41 AM
+%Lit Skill Damage (as found on Facets and Griffons Eye) doesn't work either.

theOG22093
10-12-2008, 11:07 PM
+%Lit Skill Damage (as found on Facets and Griffons Eye) doesn't work either.

Ok so:
%Increase Lighting damage on traps-Does NOT work.
-%opponents resists on traps-Does NOT work.
???

I always believed the -resis in fact does work, because it doesn't directly effect how much damage the traps are doing, but instead how much damage your opponent is recieving. Sounds the same, but in theory it isn't. The damage output from the traps are always the same (not counting resis/other penalties, aka before the hit) but the damage an opponent would take would depend on their resists and some others.

Crimson-tide
10-16-2008, 03:42 AM
Infinity is bad on any real trapper pvp or pvm, however it is usedul on a merc for obcious reasons. On a trapper claws are optimal for claw block and highest possible damage via 3/3/2's. For sockets 15ias/15res jewels are easily the best choice.

September 28, 1987
10-16-2008, 04:25 AM
From what I've seen on some trappers, Infinity isn't bad mainly because the Conviction takes away your resistances.

It's bad in a 1v1 or GM but for a random pub with retards, they seem to do okay considering. I'm not suggesting it but from what I've seen, they can help a little bit.

theOG22093
10-16-2008, 08:05 AM
Infinity is bad on any real trapper pvp or pvm, however it is usedul on a merc for obcious reasons. On a trapper claws are optimal for claw block and highest possible damage via 3/3/2's. For sockets 15ias/15res jewels are easily the best choice.

There are some great W/S trappers around.
If you're using -30wsm claws with atleast 30Ias (the optimal choice), you won't need any ias from your sockets. You put a 15/15 in your hat (unless you're going valk), and thats 9fpa trap laying.

2sin/3/2>3traps/3/2

Crimson-tide
10-16-2008, 11:06 AM
There are some great W/S trappers around.
If you're using -30wsm claws with atleast 30Ias (the optimal choice), you won't need any ias from your sockets. You put a 15/15 in your hat (unless you're going valk), and thats 9fpa trap laying.

2sin/3/2>3traps/3/2

7.5 FPS = best trap lay speeding, if im correct?

Also, read my post, i said for max damage 3/3/2 > 2/3/2..... for viability......2/3/2 is obviously best. 08 Valks are extremely expensive, but if you really need a 102 FCR breakpoint.

theOG22093
10-16-2008, 08:47 PM
7.5 FPS = best trap lay speeding, if im correct?

Also, read my post, i said for max damage 3/3/2 > 2/3/2..... for viability......2/3/2 is obviously best. 08 Valks are extremely expensive, but if you really need a 102 FCR breakpoint.

I'm pretty sure 9fps is best.
Why wouldn't you go 102 on a c/c sin? There are NL and L options on hat.

Crimson-tide
10-19-2008, 12:18 AM
I can't really get 102% on my sin without 08 valk (fir) but 102 vs 65..really isn't a major difference and 7.5 FPS is best according to IAS calculators.

I can't really get 102% on my sin without 08 valk (fire) but 102 vs 65..really isn't a major difference and 7.5 FPS is best according to IAS calculators. - looked into this more and found it was 9 FPS.

102% vs 65, meh i guess there can be tiems where that extra BP is better, but not really.

theOG22093
10-19-2008, 01:41 AM
I can't really get 102% on my sin without 08 valk (fir) but 102 vs 65..really isn't a major difference and 7.5 FPS is best according to IAS calculators.

I can't really get 102% on my sin without 08 valk (fire) but 102 vs 65..really isn't a major difference and 7.5 FPS is best according to IAS calculators. - looked into this more and found it was 9 FPS.

102% vs 65, meh i guess there can be tiems where that extra BP is better, but not really.

It's a huge difference. And yes, 9fpa is best trap laying speed...
Legit LADDER c/c 102 trap sin:

Griffons (15ias/15res jewel)
Enigma
2Sin/3Trap GT with 30Ias (On hand claw)
Any 2Sin/3Trap GT
Sin Amulet with atleast 17fcr
2x 10Fcr rings
Trangs/Mages
Arachs
Shadow Dancers

After that, the sockets are up to you

Crimson-tide
10-19-2008, 08:36 PM
I know the math for 102 c/c trappers, with 08 valk and without.... i play NL also.

theOG22093
10-19-2008, 10:13 PM
I know the math for 102 c/c trappers, with 08 valk and without.... i play NL also.

I can't really get 102% on my sin without 08 valk

That doesn't tell me so.

Crimson-tide
10-20-2008, 10:27 AM
My ammy isn't 17%. So in not spending 8k+ fg on one.

theOG22093
10-20-2008, 08:47 PM
My ammy isn't 17%. So in not spending 8k+ fg on one.

You're digging yourself in a bigger hole with every post...
A pure 17% fcr amulet with some mods would work, or a 1/17 that is >20fg
A 2/17 can run for 75-150fg

Crimson-tide
10-21-2008, 12:18 AM
Meant to put 8k on an 08 valk, but meh. I could buy Griffons/17% Ammy true.

theOG22093
10-21-2008, 08:23 PM
Meant to put 8k on an 08 valk, but meh. I could buy Griffons/17% Ammy true.

And valks go for around 5-7k as permed..

Crimson-tide
10-25-2008, 02:57 PM
And valks go for around 5-7k as permed..

This is wrong for US east nl... tehy go for 7-9k.

theOG22093
10-28-2008, 01:10 AM
This is wrong for US east nl... tehy go for 7-9k.

Yea well no one cares about east...LOOL

MambaLeyla
01-08-2009, 02:25 PM
Hello,

My apologies for plaguing you with my newbie questions.

I have caught 10 enemy troops in my traps. My question is: Now what?

I have a level 1 trapper, so my trapper is maxed out. I prefer just to kill the troops and get my traps back instead of bargaining for a ransom with their owner like some posts recommend. Is slaughtering them an option? Other advice?

An even worse newbie question - where are my trapper options displayed? I click on the trapper and look for something to click on that will show me my options with the full traps. I cant seem to find any option page.

Thanks again,
LFM

Jostron
01-08-2009, 10:46 PM
Am I the only one that finds myself wanting to hurt MambaLeyla, very badly?