Anyone else think D3 will potentially suck?

[Aaron]

Topic.

[icemanya]

Not really why would anyone think that?

[Omnicide]

There are plenty of people that seem to think that because D3 isn't D2: expansion 2.

[icemanya]

There are plenty of people that seem to think that because D3 isn't D2: expansion 2.

So? Omnicide, i see you are a true diablo fan. Now tell me what's best. a new expansion for diablo 2 with the same old news plus some new chars and quests. Or a totally new game. Better in every way of what we have seen before?

Cheers

[Omnicide]

Don't talk to me.

[IronNuts]

Don't talk to me.

LMAO! Best response, ever.


And no. D3 will not suck.


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[Immortal_Daemon]

People are freaking out because of the art style (which looks amazing) and the Witchdoctor (who seems to be badass).

Yet... if it was exactly the same, people would ***** about the lack of innovation.

[Daventry]

I'll have to remind my nephew why he shouldn't like this game. Because people ten years ago have a different view. Don't brush your teeth with the new colgate, it won't be better.

heh

[Foxhound]

I hope they don't mess this up....

[DETHAWK]

I think it will be better but what about system requirements needed to run game?

[Green-Armor Pally]

D3 will not suck! all those who think so are idiots! i think that it's going to be awesome! it's all the fun of WoW,with a diablo induced upgrade! It's also not gonna suck because that bastard Diablo refuses to die! it would suck if he just stayed in Hell and a new guy came along. Then it would suck. not gonna though.kuz that bastard refuses to die. :D :D :D :D

[Kakashi Hatake]

i dont think that it will suck, but i think it will be over rated. im a die hard d2 fan, and i think i would feel a little more positive towards teh new game if the graphics were a little more like d2s......the change is just too much to try and get used to for me. personally i think i might rather a patch that actually worked in d2 b4 they move on to a ng

[Neill]

I saw the mini-video at the site and I saw it had some aspects of WoW in it XD
The little action bar at the bottom for instance, or the inventory style etc
Still looks sick though with the super nice graphics and with the huge amount of detail put into it. Some things should stay like Diablo 2 though, the inventory style, sounds when stuff drops (I.E runes/gems) and they should keep ti that you have no clue what will drop off bosses and such, like in WoW.
Looks sick though, I sure hope we don't have to pay to play XD

[Daventry]

Like everyone says, it's going to come down to game play. If people want a dark gothic game, what has stopped anyone else from doing so.

Can it be that hard?

[JaBaSh]

When will D3 stupid threads stop to pest forums all around web...
"Will D3 suck?"
"I liek D3 NOT"
"Dia3 = WoW2 anyone?!"
"CARTOONY S**T!"
"Dia2 >>>> D3 CRAP!"
"ENI GIEB!"

Omg, just stop it, please!

[DarthRane]

meh EVERY new game has the potential to suck anyone who says d3 WILL be great just by looking at previews and **** are ignorant. It looks okay to me personally loss of necro is depressing (lets face it witchdoctor is pretty much the new necro) but i will make no judgment before i have played the game myself.

[JaBaSh]

I know most new titles have potential to suck, but people forget it's not JUST ANOTHER GAME. It's a BLIZZARD title. As I am aware, they haven't made any crap game I know of. Lack of faith, and keeping of raising alarm where it isn't necessary is what annoys me every time.

I watched gameplay video. I liked it. You call me ignorant for that. Who cares, I WILL buy it... and I know I will NOT be buying DiaII expII, but NEW game. Some just don't get it...

[DarthRane]

every warcraft game imo sucked. WoW meh no comment cause thats just my complete dislikeing for pay to play. I say people are ignorant to just trust a preview and say dead on it's gona be good. EXAMPLE halo good halo 2 CRAP halo 3 little better but still crap none the less.
NFSMW (need for speed most wanted) okay needforspeed carbon CRAP needforspeed forget whatever it's called but the one that takes damage that you gota pay for(newest one) Crap

Just because it's got the same base title as a good game and same developer doesn't make it anymore/less likely a game is gona be crap, things are either under/over hyped beyond what they are. Looking i say it looks okay and if i had to guess im gona say it's going to be ok but just like halo2/3 it will be over hyped and people will be let down because of it. Oh also another example Doom3 overhyped(amazing graphics though)
Any game like diablo with a major fan base is more than likely going to get over hyped. Any game without a previous title/a known game developer backing it will probably be under hyped. Those are the simple facts.

Edit: Yes it is just another game till it comes out for sale and we play it and it proves the players otherwise.

[JaBaSh]

If only people actually read what other people write.
I don't like WoW either, but I'll give credit that it's amazing, and pretty well built game (if not perfect). My same personal judgement about pay to play isn't important. 10 million people thinks it's an idea they can manage. I always dislike when people start to sum some non Blizzard titles as example for flaws in new games.
Look at this:

Warcraft
Warcraft II
Warcraft III
Starcraft
Diablo
DiabloII
WoW

Now tell me, can you say from this titles that game that is made by studio that produced them WILL suck, and those who have faith in their new game are ignorant? Think at least more than 3 seconds before you answer to yourself...
And this is my last reply on the matter, 3 times is more than enough.

[Thadius Moor]

Well, considering how long it took for them to finally be coming up on the release of D3, in all likelyhood, it will be their best software release to date...

[Shallie]

Well, considering how long it took for them to finally be coming up on the release of D3, in all likelyhood, it will be their best software release to date...
I wouldn't go that far. Time alone doesn't make a game a great one and I guess the whole thing has also to do with moving D3 from Blizzard North to Irvine. But none the less I'm sure D3 will be... cool, great, fantastic... (well you can get a little bit excited after 8 years of waiting).

every warcraft game imo sucked. WoW meh no comment cause thats just my complete dislikeing for pay to play. I say people are ignorant to just trust a preview and say dead on it's gona be good. EXAMPLE halo good halo 2 CRAP halo 3 little better but still crap none the less.
NFSMW (need for speed most wanted) okay needforspeed carbon CRAP needforspeed forget whatever it's called but the one that takes damage that you gota pay for(newest one) Crap
WC3 is still one of the most if not the most played RTS game online and WoW is by far the most successful MMO. So just because you don't like them doesn't mean they suck (millions of ppl think otherwise).

Your comparison with Halo and NFS is rather weak. Blizzard has developed one hit after another since the mid 90s so there's a reason why ppl believe that the upcoming games will be as fantastic and successful as the ones before.

[Thadius Moor]

Time can indeed make a game great if they have been working on it throughout those 8 years...

Afterall, perfection is rarely ever achieved in a short period of time.

SARCASM!!!

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I mean, really, look at me... I'm just coming on 31... And just reaching perfection... ROFL!

Just kidding!

[dainbramage]

You can't compare an EA game to a Blizzard game. Consider how many NFS games are released for every diablo game. 3? 4? Considering d3 has been in development for 8 years, and had a staff overhaul 3 years into production, it will have gone through radical changes throughout the process as the developers go "crap, this entire concept actually sucks. Time to start again." That doesn't happen with other publishers.

[bdkies]

I really don't know how D3 is going to turn out. It really depends on Blizzard. D2 is a good game. There are lots of games out there that are good. But few are great. D3 has potential to be great but they have to do things to adjust and change a few things that D2 had, that weren't any good.

Firstly, even though there is always going to be a market for it because apparently many people buy them, they need to cut down on the gold farming. They are inventive they thought of many ways to crack down on other things and suppress other problems they need to be the first to do so with this one. This also includes doing away with spammers. We all know all the sites by heart now just by looking at the spam msg 3 billion times. It's not like its necessary to spam anymore and it needs to be done away with.

Secondly stability needs to be enhanced. They need to dedicate a lot more servers and make them more stable.

Thirdly they need to cut down on the hacking. Make a more improved and harder to hack system then what D2 is. Either do this or monitor it better and start really punishing people for it. Since they aren't charging to play it online they already have their money from the people buying it. All they need to do is ban these accounts and make people buy another game if they want to play and abuse the system.

Lastly interaction, there is some reason for this in D2 but not much, and by the sounds of things and stuff I have read they are implementing this. Give people a reason to go into a game with others instead of solo MF'ing all the time. This will make things more fun and control your lag situation a little bit by not having so many 1 person rooms open. And on this note I will add the most important thing to me. You play and earn these nice things by getting them to drop there really needs to be a community stash for your account where you can safely transfer items without losing them so easily. I lost so many things trying to transfer it isn't funny. Whether it be getting kicked off the server for too many games in a short period of time or the game im using to xfer closes, or someone comes in and picks it up. there needs to be a stash with about 20 slots so you can transfer items back and forth without losing them all the time.

They do these things I mentioned and they will have me as a customer for a long time to come. I have been playing D2 for only a year now and have wanted to quit several times, I shouldn't feel that way. I should want to play it and not feel like I am spinning my wheels. D2 is a great game, I love the concept and I love almost everything about it, aside from these few things I just mentioned.

[DarthRane]

First of all those who actually know how to read I said nothing about WoW cause I know millions of dumbasses are willing to pay to play the game and love cartoony looking environments. And I didn' say anything about it because thats just my biased opinion so don't go putting words I didn't say into my mouth.
2nd the warcraft games were and still are horrible this comes from me personally playing it and me talking to tons of other people who have played it.

Btw pretty much every need for speed up to most wanted was good, their problem was they whored out the idea so it was enevitable that it was going to hit a pot hole.

Btw take a look how lazy the diablo team is, they made monsters that look exactly the same as other monsters farther down in the acts and just named them differently and maby gave them a different color or more power. If thats not lazy I don't know what is, also don't give me that memory crap because it wouldn't take much more space to make a few new monsters rather than just put old ones with different name and more power in.

I could say the same thing about armor and weapons but I aint stupid with all the different possible outcomes it would be stupid to expect different designs for every weapon because THAT would take up a crap load of space and honestly just isn't feasible to begin with.

[Omnicide]

You can't compare an EA game to a Blizzard game. Consider how many NFS games are released for every diablo game. 3? 4? Considering d3 has been in development for 8 years, and had a staff overhaul 3 years into production, it will have gone through radical changes throughout the process as the developers go "crap, this entire concept actually sucks. Time to start again." That doesn't happen with other publishers.That's really what makes Blizzard different from a bunch of companies.

Starcraft: Ghost, anyone? The game was on its way to getting done, but they didn't feel it met their standards. Rather than just finish up development and sell the game with what it had, they just straight out canceled it. That, alone, shows that Blizzard cares about the products they make. From an artist's point of view...that's some dedication to putting out something remarkable. THAT'S why I have faith in Blizzard.

I agree with bdkies almost entirely. I'd also like a community stash...or a way to move an item from one character to another without the use of xfer games, but if they don't put it in...I won't be too butthurt about it. The rest of the stuff dealing with item sights, hacking, duping, etc...those need to go. Or at least be nowhere NEAR to D2's level. With the addition of D3's new drop system...I see a LOT more community MF games...now that there won't be as much fighting and rushing for loot. Hell...you could possibly just follow a rogue MFer and still get your own drops. GG Blizzard for that one.

As far as DarthRane going crazy on how lazy Blizzard was with monsters. Blizzard is far from the first company to use similar sprites with different colors. That's not an example of Blizzard being lazy. By those standards a ton of other companies would be considered lazy, too. Rockstar for not having unique people without even one copy. Final Fantasy did the same to their monsters for a good amount of time. Comparing an 8 year old game to today's standards is retarded, especially when Blizzard wasn't the only company to do it.

Pay to play has advantages. Just because you're too cheap to want it doesn't make anyone a dumbass. You can hate something all you want, but that doesn't make ANYONE lower than you.

[Daventry]

I have never seen a game that you can completely play all the way through in single player charge for online also. I could be wrong, but I don't see a pay to play for this style of game. There hasn't been one yet that I know of and I doubt D3 is going to be like UO.

A community stash would rock, plain and simple. I thought I seen artwork of cities or something. To go as far as saying there could be a bank, people could complain more about it being like WoW. Still, if there was some kind of Inn for community stash, it would make life so much easier!

[bdkies]

People just want too much. They expect this and expect that, the problem with that is those fancy features take up a lot of memory and a lot of space. Sure you say it doesn't take much to make up new characters but in fact it really does. A lot of time and detail goes into them, the more character models you have the more time to load things the worse the game gets performance wise. Until a company actually markets a lifelike game without being as choppy and laggy as they all are then we can expect more. But up too now that has yet to be done. The best graphics in a game I see out there is in Vanguard. But they paid dearly for it. The performance blows. So don't sit there knowing nothing about programming and say that it isn't a big deal to add details and characters into an already complex system because it is. You can't have your cake and eat it too, I guess thats what wrong with people today they expect to have their cake and eat it as well.

Pay to play games is nothing out of the ordinary, I have been playing them for about 11 years now. When I pay to play a game I get what I pay for. People updating the system constantly, looking for new ways to make things better, expansions, expanding the world, tons of things benefit from playing monthly. Blizzard doesn't exactly maintenance D2 like they would if it was a monthly billed product I assure you. But you can't sit here and gripe that they aren't because you aren't paying to play it on a monthly basis, you paid for the product up front and what you are getting now is basically free, so in essence I don't see where someone has the right to complain, however we still do "I am guilty of this myself" but you just have to realize that there is only so much they can invest into something before it begins to eat away all their profits. Less you forget they are in business to make money.

Another suggestion I have for D3 would be to have a marketplace. 1 in each act. a place where you could go see what people have up for sale. A lot like the djsp or whatever its called, except all done within the game. Each person can put up to 5-10 items on this market and sell things while they MF more, get something for their time and also make gold a more valuable thing, instead of just using it to gamble stuff.

D2 is remarkable in the way that their is so many ways to go as far as building a character. So many options, so many possibilities I absolutely love that aspect. I really hope they decide to keep that line of thought and expand on it. I always hated MMO's because you had clerics, hunters, rangers, whatever it may be and in the end they were ALL the same, aside from a few pieces of gear. I like the ability to be different yet still effective. I think this plays a major role in why people keep playing this game so far down the road.

[Omnicide]

They've already said that D3 won't be pay to play as it's not an MMO.

And I don't think they're changing gold's place in the economy. ._.;

[Sniper.Wolf]

I don't think the game will suck.

Of course it is going to be different. It's a new game! When I saw the graphics I wasn't too happy. It looks great if you like WoW, which I don't. But I still think it mostly the gameplay, storyline/plot, and the characters/skills, which, imo, seems to look pretty dang awesome.

Now lets say Diablo 2 was made like D3 (D3 graphics, and D2...the rest):
You wouldn't NOT buy D2 or NOT play D2 only because you didn't like the way it looks...

I know what you might be thinking...."how do I know it isn't going to suck"
Well I don't, BUT if it really is a D3 game, they wouldn't make it like WoW because I'm pretty sure they know D2 HATES WOW.....obviously. So, like I said, if it is really a sequel to D2, hopefully, and I'm praying, the gameplay is exactly, if not, BETTER than D2. Same goes for the characters, skills, items....pretty much everything.

Anyway, I hope, pray, and would like to think, that Diablo 3 will NOT suck.

[Daventry]

Pay to play games is nothing out of the ordinary, I have been playing them for about 11 years now. When I pay to play a game I get what I pay for.

People don't pay to play games that have an ending. A single player ending at that also.

If you open that door, then people should pay to play Quake, Unreal and all the other shooters. People should pay to play all the strat games while they are at it also.

They can keep their trade system, I don't want a mmo. Give me D3 with only a handful of players and leave the server side to a minor requirement.

Let them pay the electric bill with their millions, i'll pay my own electric bill on my side. :D

edit...

I know with those other games, people have their own servers running. I still don't see D3 changing that drastic. You click, you kill and you keep playing.

[Darkness Howls]

Most PTP games are MMORPGs. D3 isn't an MMORPG, so I don't think it's going to be a PTP game.

*Nibbles on kitten*

[dainbramage]

First of all those who actually know how to read
I'm now just going to quote your post for epic irony. L2grammar.

First of all those who actually know how to read I said nothing about WoW cause I know millions of dumbasses are willing to pay to play the game and love cartoony looking environments. And I didn' say anything about it because thats just my biased opinion so don't go putting words I didn't say into my mouth.
2nd the warcraft games were and still are horrible this comes from me personally playing it and me talking to tons of other people who have played it.

Btw pretty much every need for speed up to most wanted was good, their problem was they whored out the idea so it was enevitable that it was going to hit a pot hole.

Btw take a look how lazy the diablo team is, they made monsters that look exactly the same as other monsters farther down in the acts and just named them differently and maby gave them a different color or more power. If thats not lazy I don't know what is, also don't give me that memory crap because it wouldn't take much more space to make a few new monsters rather than just put old ones with different name and more power in.

I could say the same thing about armor and weapons but I aint stupid with all the different possible outcomes it would be stupid to expect different designs for every weapon because THAT would take up a crap load of space and honestly just isn't feasible to begin with.

[JaBaSh]

Blizzard lazy on D2 graphics?! LOL!

Find a program called DRTest, load up d2char.mpq with it. When you do that, you'll see that EVERY character is sum called *.COF animation made from *.DCC sprite part animations. Every character has it's custom animation for head, torso, legs, left arm, right arm, left hand, right hand, shield, and possible so called "S1, 2, 3,... etc" for shoulders. Each .DCC had to be drawn SEPARATELY for each character with different set of armors, weapons and shield. Remeber that every character has round 15 different directions, and similar number of diferent frame animations. It's not like today, where you have finished 3d model, and you animate it like a puppet within your latest graphic/animation advanced program. That wasn't over nights work, and by todays standards it's massive project they put effort in 8 years ago.

[weakwilled]

JESUS CHRIST!!! what is it with ppl comparing D3 to WoW okay seriously I play WoW, and D3 barely compares apparently ppl havent played many games out there, i will say it one last time D3's gameplay and battle system and yes all that action bar **** that many of you keep saying is so much like WoW is actually identical to Titan Quest, play the game u'll see what i mean or look up some gameplay videos of Titan Quest on youtube, AND NO D3 is not gonna suck, its gonna be kickass a WoW killer in my opinion, that might not be the case but for me i'll be quitting WoW and playing D3 instead. STOP hating on D3!, if you dont like it so far leave it alone keep your mouth shut and dont play the damn game when it comes out is that simple.

[dainbramage]

JESUS CHRIST!!! what is it with ppl comparing D3 to WoWD3 is not gonna suck, its gonna be kickass a WoW killer in my opinion, that might not be the case but for me i'll be quitting WoW and playing D3 instead.

Fail.

[bdkies]

Well, I didn't mean D3 was going to be pay to play lol. That guy was ragging on MMO's and how people pay money monthly to play them, there is a reason people play those games.

Get used to WoW stuff. They seen how many people payed to play WoW and it is changing the entire spectrum of gaming, every game that comes down the pipe looks exactly like WoW and plays much like it. It has already been affecting the MMO world but now its making its way to non MMO's as well. Same interface same concept same everything just different chars and different models. I myself don't like it because I didn't like WoW but I guess they are going to do whatever brings them the most money.

[DarthRane]

I'm now just going to quote your post for epic irony. L2grammar.

Sorry but your quote fails for the obvious reason of "For those who know how to READ" im sorry but taking the time to deal with grammar, in a forum is pointless. And if you can't interpret what is being said because of a lack of commas and the basic slang of forums then you shouldn't be reading. Thank you for wasting your time




Btw BD or whatever. Go and find the average amount of space each monster takes up. Then compare it to the amount of space the weapons take up. Also I didn't compare the game to modern day tech in anyway, other than with the fact games with good titles have the potential to suck. Also the time it came out, a computer with decent parts (of that time) could more the handle the extra memory that a few monsters would take up.

Yes they scraped ghost, and I have respect for that instead of marketing a product they thought didn't meet standards. But that doesn't change the basic human nature of over hyping/under hyping.

To those who are talking about p2p for D3 IT'S NOT GONA HAPPEN STFU about it already.

Someone mind telling me about new mf system because i haven't found anything on that.

[Yesca159]

People are just upset that they will lose their items they spent much time, or money from D2. I am close to losing 3 accounts due to the fact that I only have access to the internet at work right now. Didn't even care once I heard that the production of Diablo 3 is no longer a rumor. These same people that are complaining about Diablo 3 were crying for years that they wanted it! I believe it will be a much better game overall than D2 WoW or any other like it. Just don't listen to the fat guy on youtube.

[DarthRane]

Yeah people spend forever getting weapons and items and **** then d3 comes out and they are basically ****ed :)
Personally I know the feeling, my acct got deleted due to inactivity , my necro had torch nigma few other uniques forgoteen, and anni couple summon charms so i do know their pain lol, but the jump from 2d to 3 will be a big improvement and might take some people a bit to get used to but it will be for the better.

[Omnicide]

Darth...you were the first to even mention pay to play. And you were also the first to call those that do pay to play "dumbasses".

I still think it's pretty easy for someone like you to call Blizzard lazy because they used a common game development scheme like recoloring monsters.

I don't listen to hype. That's why I think the game is fine, regardless of what other people think. Kind of why I don't mind games that are pay to play.

[bdkies]

It doesn't really matter how much memory a sword takes compared to a monster, that is irrelevant, what is relevant is the fact that no matter how much memory they take up they still take a long time to develop. You can't just up and think of a monster that nobody has seen before. Throughout all the games and all the details things are going to look similar from time to time. If using the same monster type but discoloring it bothers you then you should find a new hobby. If details that small force you to come on to the forums and rag about it then maybe its time to rethink your priorities.

To me using the same monster type is a good idea. It saves time, money, and they can get their product released with less bugs and faster and it is a win win for everyone. Not every mob in D2 is similar. Ya mobs have different coloration but are the same in some areas but who cares? If detail is that big of a deal then maybe you should go into development for a company and then you can design a completely fresh game that will take 17 years to develop and launch.

In the meantime let Blizzard do what they do best. Make video/computer games that kick *** and make money while doing so. After all is said and done I think the people sitting in the programming chair know a little bit more about what they are doing then you do. Give em a break. Not everything is going to be perfect, were all not going to be satisfied 100% of the time. Take the punches and roll with them.

[dainbramage]

Sorry but your quote fails for the obvious reason of "For those who know how to READ" im sorry but taking the time to deal with grammar, in a forum is pointless. And if you can't interpret what is being said because of a lack of commas and the basic slang of forums then you shouldn't be reading. Thank you for wasting your time

a) L2grammar.
b) Generally reading and writing skills go hand-in-hand.
c) If you need to make a conscious effort to write with decent grammar, you fail @ english.
d) L2grammar.

[Hesserone]

It doesn't really matter how much memory a sword takes compared to a monster, that is irrelevant, what is relevant is the fact that no matter how much memory they take up they still take a long time to develop. You can't just up and think of a monster that nobody has seen before. Throughout all the games and all the details things are going to look similar from time to time. If using the same monster type but discoloring it bothers you then you should find a new hobby. If details that small force you to come on to the forums and rag about it then maybe its time to rethink your priorities.

To me using the same monster type is a good idea. It saves time, money, and they can get their product released with less bugs and faster and it is a win win for everyone. Not every mob in D2 is similar. Ya mobs have different coloration but are the same in some areas but who cares? If detail is that big of a deal then maybe you should go into development for a company and then you can design a completely fresh game that will take 17 years to develop and launch.

In the meantime let Blizzard do what they do best. Make video/computer games that kick *** and make money while doing so. After all is said and done I think the people sitting in the programming chair know a little bit more about what they are doing then you do. Give em a break. Not everything is going to be perfect, were all not going to be satisfied 100% of the time. Take the punches and roll with them.

Agreed. Game designers have been doing this for a while now. The only game I can think of now that is simliar would be Donkey Kong 2 on snes.... What a wonderful game.

Anyway, If you have to complain about something like that why don't you try and do what they are doing. Creating a whole new game with all new monsters. Have the huge size of the game and areas and not have a single thing look similar. Good luck with that.

[Daventry]

Gameplay Changes

The entire quest system has been revamped. Along with the main storyline quests, there will be character specific quests as well as random adventures - mini quests generated randomly on the map.

The player can explore almost the entirety of Sanctuary. The outdoor environment has been left unspoilt for 20 years and looks more like a fantasy setting. The dungeons are still randomized but the random map generator has undergone an overhaul.

The game now incorporates the Havok physics engine and enables players to utilise the environment to help in their quest. For example, huge walls can be reduced to rubble to squash monsters by the Barbarian skill Seismic Slam. Even monsters use the environment which was demonstrated by Ghouls scaling the walls to reach the Barbarian.

Potions have lesser importance because of globes. Whenever a monster is killed, a life or mana globe is left behind. If a player picks it up, it acts like the generic health and mana potions. If there are other players nearby, it replenishes them too.

In co-operative play, loot is dropped for individual players. So, one player cannot see what the other gets. This was done to encourage trading between players in a group and reducing thievery.

Similar to the characters, the NPCs are also more lively and will have interesting backstories. The gameplay video showed the Barbarian communicating to Deckard Cain in a new interface. The player characters have also been given more interactivity and are able to chose conversation options while conversing with NPCs. The characters have unique voices and will reveal their own backstory in conversation.

It's going to be a better game. :cool:

[Barbecue]

Don't talk to me.

Heh

[DarthRane]

a) L2grammar.
b) Generally reading and writing skills go hand-in-hand.
c) If you need to make a conscious effort to write with decent grammar, you fail @ english.
d) L2grammar.
Actually comprehension of what is being written based on peoples dialect or slang in community online or in real life, are completely different from people wanting to be lazy and not deal with propper grammar.
and actually you make a conscious effort every time you do any writing, HOW MUCH of an effort you want to put into it is completely different. Go talk to an author or editer how many times they have to double check to make sure everything is written right and not misspelled etc. So your telling me that because they have to go back over and over to make sure the grammar etc. is right they fail at english? Because last time I checked that is a conscious effort. Hmm your argument is a fail.

Btw compared to other problems that BLIZZARD has had with the game that I consider much more important were never really solved. Duping, their solution to duping was making every weapon have it's own serial etc. Only problem is their solution punishes those who have played legit(as far as what I know cause i haven't duped or ran into a duper I don't thin) but from what I have been told if a duped item comes in game with another person who has that same item, BOTH items get deleted... if this is true then they are punishing those who have done nothing wrong.
To those telling me to make my own game first of all to make game you need the proper programs which cost a fortune, and quite frankly beeing 18 in minimum wage job doesn't exactly cut it. Also yea they have been making games long etc etc good god, I am sorry but thats pathetic to say. Take a look at ANY competing companies etc. you will find numerous times when a group or company that has never made a single product before make something new and better than the long standing competition.

[Omnicide]

Actually comprehension of what is being written based on peoples dialect or slang in community online or in real life, are completely different from people wanting to be lazy and not deal with propper grammar.
and actually you make a conscious effort every time you do any writing, HOW MUCH of an effort you want to put into it is completely different. Go talk to an author or editer how many times they have to double check to make sure everything is written right and not misspelled etc. So your telling me that because they have to go back over and over to make sure the grammar etc. is right they fail at english? Because last time I checked that is a conscious effort. Hmm your argument is a fail.He never said that going back and fixing typos mistakes meant you failed at English. Put less words in the mouth. It's really not hard to have decent English. An author/editor will go through to check for mistakes because it just looks bad to write a book as "it wuz a dark n stormy nite..." I'm pretty damn sure authors aren't that bad. They'd probably have less mistakes in their books than you do in your post. Even if they didn't, 200+ pages gives more reason than a two paragraph post.

Btw compared to other problems that BLIZZARD has had with the game that I consider much more important were never really solved. Duping, their solution to duping was making every weapon have it's own serial etc. Only problem is their solution punishes those who have played legit(as far as what I know cause i haven't duped or ran into a duper I don't thin) but from what I have been told if a duped item comes in game with another person who has that same item, BOTH items get deleted... if this is true then they are punishing those who have done nothing wrong.Wrong. If you dupe...then you have a duplicate of that ID code, meaning BOTH items weren't legit. When you find an item...it has a different ID code. As long as you don't dupe with it, you're safe. It's really not that hard to understand the serial number system. If you trade with ANYONE...best to not count it as legit.

To those telling me to make my own game first of all to make game you need the proper programs which cost a fortune, and quite frankly beeing 18 in minimum wage job doesn't exactly cut it. Also yea they have been making games long etc etc good god, I am sorry but thats pathetic to say. Take a look at ANY competing companies etc. you will find numerous times when a group or company that has never made a single product before make something new and better than the long standing competition.I don't see any other companies that made a game as comparable as WoW. O_o So uhhh...that logic of yours is flawed. The reason they told you to make your own game is because you seem to think you know exactly what makes a perfect game...but I'm wondering from what experience. It's pathetic to sit there, call Blizzard lazy for using sprites in multiple areas, then sit there and give excuses like your age and financial situation as to why you can't do what Blizzard does. If anything...that just proves that your opinion of Blizzard's laziness is moot.

[Green-Armor Pally]

D3 will not suck! all those who think so are idiots! i think that it's going to be awesome! Changed my mind.upon studying further,i have disovered that there will be but 2 classes. it is going to suck so bad. If you think D3 will suck,the Huzah for you. if not then i give you, X marks the spot! x: colon=hands

[dainbramage]

Actually comprehension of what is being written based on peoples dialect or slang in community online or in real life, are completely different from people wanting to be lazy and not deal with propper grammar.
and actually you make a conscious effort every time you do any writing, HOW MUCH of an effort you want to put into it is completely different. Go talk to an author or editer how many times they have to double check to make sure everything is written right and not misspelled etc. So your telling me that because they have to go back over and over to make sure the grammar etc. is right they fail at english? Because last time I checked that is a conscious effort. Hmm your argument is a fail.

No. Typing naturally. When you try to write something do u liek rite this rly long run-on sentence wich jst goes on 4evr and eventually by the end of the sentence noone understands what you're saying because the last comma u used was abut nineteen lines ago and there hasn't been a break in ur sentenze 4 at least 3 lines and if you were trying to say this out loud you'd have run out of rbeath and pasd out by now?

Or, do you break things into sentences which people can understand? I need to make a conscious effort to write like an imbecile, because I write in sentences automatically; i.e. unconsciously. For the record, in the previous sentence I misspelled because (beacuse) and sentences (senteces). I was talking about something completely different to fixing a typo.

Of course an author will make a typo, and some grammatical errors if you're right up the nazi end of grammar nazi. He won't write some horrendous run-on sentence which needs to be read about 3 times before you can understand what he's saying.

EDIT: Changed my mind.upon studying further,i have disovered that there will be but 2 classes

Fail.

[Omnicide]

Changed my mind.upon studying further,i have disovered that there will be but 2 classes. it is going to suck so bad. If you think D3 will suck,the Huzah for you. if not then i give you, X marks the spot! x: colon=handsRefer to my sig.

[DarthRane]

He never said that going back and fixing typos mistakes meant you failed at English. Put less words in the mouth. It's really not hard to have decent English. An author/editor will go through to check for mistakes because it just looks bad to write a book as "it wuz a dark n stormy nite..." I'm pretty damn sure authors aren't that bad. They'd probably have less mistakes in their books than you do in your post. Even if they didn't, 200+ pages gives more reason than a two paragraph post.

Wrong. If you dupe...then you have a duplicate of that ID code, meaning BOTH items weren't legit. When you find an item...it has a different ID code. As long as you don't dupe with it, you're safe. It's really not that hard to understand the serial number system. If you trade with ANYONE...best to not count it as legit.

I don't see any other companies that made a game as comparable as WoW. O_o So uhhh...that logic of yours is flawed. The reason they told you to make your own game is because you seem to think you know exactly what makes a perfect game...but I'm wondering from what experience. It's pathetic to sit there, call Blizzard lazy for using sprites in multiple areas, then sit there and give excuses like your age and financial situation as to why you can't do what Blizzard does. If anything...that just proves that your opinion of Blizzard's laziness is moot.

As far as the Id code, mk well heres the thing , if every item has it's own ID code then from my understanding of how that works. You need to have an item that was duped, end up in the same game as another person who has an item that was duped from the exact same original. So if that is the case, then it really doesn't solve the problem, because the odds of that are slim.

Next as far as WoW goes planetside is much better than wow and that game is MUCH older. Also the only mmorpg I ever have, and probably ever will pay for if I ever decide to go back to it:P. Lineage 2 was better than WoW (still not big fan of it but meh).Anyway besides the point cause I was saying that new companies come out and make better stuff all the time. Just because it hasn't happened to WoW yet, doesn't mean that it won't.

As far as my opinion on blizzards laziness goes, age and financial situation is a legitimate reason last time I checked. MM not really age but financial stuff, but if you can make a game on minimum wage ON YOUR OWN thats not flash based be my guest and prove me wrong. No I don't think I know what makes a perfect game but I know what I expect from game developers when I buy a game.

[Omnicide]

As far as the Id code, mk well heres the thing , if every item has it's own ID code then from my understanding of how that works. You need to have an item that was duped, end up in the same game as another person who has an item that was duped from the exact same original. So if that is the case, then it really doesn't solve the problem, because the odds of that are slim.Maybe, but with how people dupe...they're making a lot more than just one copy...if they were smart since there's a large chance of it disappearing within that first game. Then it goes to someone else that plans on duping...they make some more copies...they end up trading some of those...and so on and so forth.

Next as far as WoW goes planetside is much better than wow and that game is MUCH older. Also the only mmorpg I ever have, and probably ever will pay for if I ever decide to go back to it:P. Lineage 2 was better than WoW (still not big fan of it but meh).Anyway besides the point cause I was saying that new companies come out and make better stuff all the time. Just because it hasn't happened to WoW yet, doesn't mean that it won't.You're listing games you vote better than WoW. Last I checked, your opinion didn't outvote the other multiple millions of players. I'm not saying it'll never happen to WoW...it has to get old and surpassed at some point, but you can't sit there, say you think one's better and expect that to be your proof. The fact is...WoW has a lot more players...period.

As far as my opinion on blizzards laziness goes, age and financial situation is a legitimate reason last time I checked. MM not really age but financial stuff, but if you can make a game on minimum wage ON YOUR OWN thats not flash based be my guest and prove me wrong. No I don't think I know what makes a perfect game but I know what I expect from game developers when I buy a game.Well don't sit there acting like you know what a game should have when you don't know what goes into it. Also, don't turn the whole making a game with minimum wage back on me. You're the one that acts like you know how to solve Blizzard's little faults. I merely told you it was a common thing among games. I'm not the one that has a problem with their methods.

I hope D3 has reused sprites...doubt it, but it'd make me laugh just knowing how you'd get all butthurt about it.

[Shallie]

Maybe, but with how people dupe...they're making a lot more than just one copy...if they were smart since there's a large chance of it disappearing within that first game. Then it goes to someone else that plans on duping...they make some more copies...they end up trading some of those...and so on and so forth.
Idd. People usually dupe items with perfect or almost perfect stats and they don't drop very often. Chances to join a game with someone else who has an item with the same ID is not that slim, especially because lots of players are heading for the best items for their builds.

You're listing games you vote better than WoW. Last I checked, your opinion didn't outvote the other multiple millions of players. I'm not saying it'll never happen to WoW...it has to get old and surpassed at some point, but you can't sit there, say you think one's better and expect that to be your proof. The fact is...WoW has a lot more players...period.

The advantage of MMORPGs is that they are under constant development (can also turn into a disadvantage though - see SWG). WoW will also come to its end at some point but MMOs have the potential to last far longer than other games. I'm still hoping that gamespots 1. april joke will come true and I'll be running with hundreds of other zergs over the battlefield and kick some protos asses ;)

[®@þþ3¬]

Ofcourse there is the possibility it might suck, but I dont think it will...

[Trash Gordon]

I think once they reveal the next 3 classes (if they do before they release the game, which I hope they will), then we will all realise how badass and awesome D3 will be. I don't know why people complain about the WD. It looks pretty sweet to me. Throwing fireballs and scaring the crap out of everyone sounds cool if you ask me.

[dainbramage]

Passive rust works on players on the same server, not game. There are generally 80-120 games per server.

[Omnicide]

Orly?

I didn't know it was server based. ._.;

@Shallie...That's what I was trying to say. Same ID items aren't that hard to come across.

[DimmuDraicher]

@ thread starter..

why do u think it may suck?..

[Aaron]

All these hyped up games seem to be bad.

[Daventry]

Like someone else already said, a lot of people didn't like D2 when it was first released. Of course D3 will have just as many haters. =P

I don't hear anyone saying what is better.

You people are crap talkin about the game. Divine Divinity rocked as a single player game and you trashed the demo of that. It took so long to get out of the dungeons, blah.

You little ***s shouldn't even be able to play this game. Everyone that talked crap should just walk away. Go and be gone without wasting anyones time. If you think this world owes you something, then get in line to die.

You're dead crap talkin crap. :D

[Thadius Moor]

"The advantage of MMORPGs is that they are under constant development (can also turn into a disadvantage though - see SWG). WoW will also come to its end at some point but MMOs have the potential to last far longer than other games. I'm still hoping that gamespots 1. april joke will come true and I'll be running with hundreds of other zergs over the battlefield and kick some protos asses"

Haha!

Totally True!

Example...

"The advantage of MMORPGs is that they are under constant development (can also turn into a disadvantage though - see SWG)"

Runescape...

Need I say more?

[Daventry]

People want to see the end of pc gaming besides java scripts. :D

[buck_7_2000]

If you think the game will suck then dont buy it. Simply as that.

[Rhd999]

If you think the game will suck then dont buy it. Simply as that.

Well said. Glad to see new people on the forums who aren't retarded and can't spell. Good job.

[buck_7_2000]

Well said. Glad to see new people on the forums who aren't retarded and can't spell. Good job.

Can't spell? I think I can spell just fine thank you, but thanks for noticing that I'm not retarded. lol

[Thadius Moor]

I'll be buying Diablo III as soon as it's released and you can bet the farm I'll be online as soon as Battlenet is available for it...

And as before, I'll likely be a Necro as I simply love the dark magickal arts where it applies to summoning the dead to serve me with total loyalty.

=)

[Omnicide]

What necro?

[Rhd999]

Can't spell? I think I can spell just fine thank you, but thanks for noticing that I'm not retarded. lol

No, i was complementing the fact that you CAN spell. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[DarthRane]

Maybe, but with how people dupe...they're making a lot more than just one copy...if they were smart since there's a large chance of it disappearing within that first game. Then it goes to someone else that plans on duping...they make some more copies...they end up trading some of those...and so on and so forth.

You're listing games you vote better than WoW. Last I checked, your opinion didn't outvote the other multiple millions of players. I'm not saying it'll never happen to WoW...it has to get old and surpassed at some point, but you can't sit there, say you think one's better and expect that to be your proof. The fact is...WoW has a lot more players...period.

Well don't sit there acting like you know what a game should have when you don't know what goes into it. Also, don't turn the whole making a game with minimum wage back on me. You're the one that acts like you know how to solve Blizzard's little faults. I merely told you it was a common thing among games. I'm not the one that has a problem with their methods.

I hope D3 has reused sprites...doubt it, but it'd make me laugh just knowing how you'd get all butthurt about it.

Mk compare planetside when first started to WoW your assuming im talking on opinion. :|

2nd im not all butthurt about it I just said id like to see it changed :P btw I do have pretty good idea what goes into games as I actually have taken the time to research it.

[buck_7_2000]

No, i was complementing the fact that you CAN spell. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Thats what I figured, I was just joking.

[cmlogu01]

what the hell are you talking about?!?!?! no it wont suck.