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SummonFoo
01-08-2008, 01:52 AM
BvC = Barb vs. Casters
this kind of barb is capable of killing any type of chars besides another max block ww barb and some zealers (yes, literally, can kill anyone...most zealers, revive necro, hdins, etc)

Contents:
1. Stats
2. Gear
3. Skills
4. Hotkeys
5. PvP Section
a. vs. sorc
b. vs. pally
c. vs. druid
d. vs. sin
e. vs. necro
f. vs. zon
g. vs. barb

Now lets go to the build:

1. Stats:
Strength - None - You'll be using a bp nigma, which will giv u str for all gear
Dex - None - You're bvc, u dun need max block, maybe ull hav to put sum into this if ur switching gear for certain types
Vita - All - yay for more life, with this build, you'll get 7k+ life
Energy - None - ...

2. Teh Gear:
Helm: 40/9 (ed/str) Arreats (40/15 max and 40/10 min jools hav are bugged, which means it doesnt work)
Armor: Bp Nigma - u get all ur str from this at base str req
Ammy: Highlords
Rings: 2x Ravens
Belt: Arach
Boots: Nice Tri Resist boots
Gloves: Dracs - great for OW, str, lifetap (only idiots use rends)
Weapons: Grief Z + Beast Z (if ur nl, use ebotdz + beast z) also, if ur using grief, make sure its 34+ ias becuz the zerk has a base ias of -34, so u gotta cancel that out if u wanna get more hits
On Switch: +3bo cta + Hoto (or +3wc wep) (2x +3bo ctas dont work)

In Stash:
Demonlimb - enchant for more ar vs melee's
Angelic ammy + rings - for more ar vs melee's
2x Fcr rings w/ mana + resist - to catch those speedy sorcs
Ss - vs hard hitting melee's (sumtimes i dun even need a shield to beat a melee)
Dungos - dr vs melee, smite, ele druid
BerBer 31dr Coa - use this vs ele druids (nado = physical dmg)
Hotspurs - vs those annoying fire sorcs
Tgods - vs traps/lite sorcs/wisp
Kiras - vs foh for stack resist
Death set glove - vs psn chars (novamance,wwsin,kicker,etc) givs 50psn resist + 75 reduced psn length
2x Um'd Wizzy - vs es cold sorcs - ow cuts to their life like butter
Prebuff gear if u want: +6bo helm, sojs, +3wc ammy

In your inventory:
Fill your inventory with max/ar/life charms
If you need resists, put life/resist scs
also put sum 5fhr scs in ur inv enuff to hit 48fhr bp
anni
(Even 39x 20life scs will be godly on a bvc barb)

3. Skills:
20 Axe Mastery
20 Bo
20 Ww
1 Battle command
1 Frenzy
1 Berserk
Have "Leap" at lvl 26 with bo - yes, i said leap which ill explain later, jus do it
Rest spread into increased speed and natural resists however you like

4. Hotkeys
sum might be curious of wut hotkeys i use
f1: tele
f2: ww
f3: leap
f4: unsummon
f5: bc
f6: bo
f7: shout
and zerk on left click

5. PvP time:
this is just a brief summary of wut u can do vs these types of chars, there r other ways, choose w/e u want

leap - has a hiddin stun radius which increases as u put more pts into it. example: wen u leap and sumone is in ur screen, that guy gets pushed back

remember - vs most chars, this is wut u do: Leap, tele + ww

namelock trick - unsummon key, use it to namelock (but be prepared to be called an aa'er)

a. Sorcs:

Fire Sorc - most of these sorcs jus tele far away n spam fb, sumtimes i jus try to catch them down, or i let them come near me. this is where leap comes in handy. leap wen they r near, tele on them n do short wws. if they r a problem, put on hotspurs. also put on angelics if its a tanker sorc

Lite Sorc - do the same thing as fb sorcs

Blizz Sorc - ull need 250+ resist vs cold, if theyre es, put on those wizzies. if not, jus try to catch them wen theyre not blizzing themselves. sum smart ones will tele to one place, blizz themselves, then tele away thinking you'll follow her into the blizz, try to avoid that. instead, make random tele's toward her and leap tele+ww

Orb Sorc: alot of them jus fire a random orb at u and tele away. put on sum cold resist so u can tank an orb for a namelock if they r too fast for leap/ tele+ww. orbs are easy to dodge if they jus fire randomly so jus take ur time, dont try to catch them too fast, ull get hit alot if u do.

b. Paladins:

Hammerdin: for those noob ones that jus spam hammers, tele directly under him and zerk him to death, but be careful, those hammers hav a way of hurting wen u get touched by it. for the medium ones (better than noob but still sux) that spams a few hammers and try to tele on u, ww down, that way the hammers will be less likely to hit u. wen they try to charge in to sneak a hammer, tele + ww them rite away before they can spam more hammers. put on angelics if these guys hav max block. Now for the pro desynching hdins....uh...good luck?

Zealers: the noob ones will jus follow u while ur wwing away, let them follow n die. those idiots that charge u while u ww away will die too. vs the gud ones that hold shift and zeal, do triangle wws around them, if they hav a weapon with less reach than zerk, they cant touch u, but u can. vs those that jus chase u like a retard, ww away. vs all types of melees: dont ww directly into them, that'll jus give them a chance to hit u..even with his fists..try to ww around them. put on dungos + ss if they hav alot of ar/dmg

Smite: put on coa + dungos. no shield, remember, smite is unblockable. ww them in triangles jus like vs zealers. or ww above or below them. jus as long as its not directly thru them, which will take u down to very slow life or even dead. for the dumb ones that follow u, ww away from them everytime they run into u

Chargers: Jus ww away from them everytime they charge you. put on a shield if they hav alot of ar

Foh: put on stacked resist like kiras, tgods, etc. stay out of their screen so the conviction doesnt get on u, that way a convictionless foh = **** dmg. wen ur ready, leap tele/ww them, dont let them hav a chance to get away.

V/t: Jus treat them like smiters, theyre foh dmg doesnt do ****

Auradins: put on stacked resist, jus tele/ww them

c. Druids:

Ele Druids: you're going to hav a problem against these guys. gud druids, you wont win against. put on Coa + dungos. wen they tele on u, do short ww around, if they try to tank u, hes dead. if he teles away, try to catch him while hes resummoning. dont get hit by those stray nados tho

Fury Druids: dont pick on these poor guys...treat them like a zealer

d. Assassins:

Trapsin: these guys are ez. tele ww = dead trapsin. most of them will die in 1 ww. sum with max block will take a bit longer but is no threat. put on tgods if u want. i dont even need sorb against these guys

WWsins: u should never lose to a wwsin. if u do, delete your barb. these guys dun even require a shield to beat. jus ww them, parallel, not direct. sum hav alot of psn dmg. put on deaths glove + treks if u feel like picking on them. put on a shield if they hit alot

Kickers: i wont even mention how to kill these. i just let them hit me a few, get me to half life before i rip them to shreds

e. Necros:

Pnb: leap + tele/ww. your going to need to practice on those short ww's especially for these guys. their spirits hurt. wen they spam it, jus run it off, dont try to tank it, 10 spirits going at u = dead barb if u try to tank it. jus run it off and make big tele's toward him n tele/ww. see summon part if he wants to revive. these guys are hard if they do revive tho. theres also another way to take care of these guys, u tele on them and zerk them. zerk = magical dmg so it ignores the bone armor.

Summon: these guys might be a problem, but u can take care of em. leap + tele/ww them. wen u leap, he gets knocked out of his summons n thats wen u tele/ww em.

Novamancer: put on death gloves. psn nova has a short range so theyre gonna hav to get close to get u. thats wen u leap tele/ww, dun get caught by the nova he casts wen ur trying to chase em tho.

f. Amazons:

Bowzon: make zig zag teles toward em and tele ww. most die in 1 ww, sum that are gud will die in 2, doesnt make a big difference

PsnJavazon: these guys are tuff, dodge + max block. put on death glove. tele ww them till they die

Cs zon: these guys hurt also. put on tgods + more stacked resist if u want. be sure to be below them. thats where the bolts hit u less. ww down, stupid zons will jus chase u down to hit u, only to get hit more. treat these like other melee's

g. Barbs:

BvC: it all depends on how u ww. dont ww directly into them. ww parallel/ sideways/below them. if u hav more dmg/ar then them, then u hav a higher chance of winning.

BvB: im gonna tell u this straight up: ur not gonna win against most of these. but u can try...put on 2x angelic ring, ammy, ss, dungos, and hope ur shield blocks.

Wolfbarb: treat like any other melee

Warcry: cmon...jus giv these guys their moment..

finally...im done....

lemme noe if i left anything out. good luck on ur bvc barbs guys :)

Orbit Hero
01-08-2008, 01:56 AM
Uhm, I think you posted in the wrong Forum. Its okay, it happens to everyone! ^^

SummonFoo
01-08-2008, 02:00 AM
wht forum is the anyway????

anyways, what u think ^^

Orbit Hero
01-08-2008, 02:12 AM
...This is the Diablo 2 Guides...not Character Class Builds.

It says
"Barbarian Build Guides"...

saracen85
01-08-2008, 02:47 AM
imo crafted blood belt is better than arachs. godly ones can spawn with +life, +str, +fhr and 10% open wounds.. great for ow stacking.

Weapons: Grief Z + Beast Z (if ur nl, use ebotdz + beast z) also, if ur using grief, make sure its 34+ ias becuz the zerk has a base ias of -34, so u gotta cancel that out if u wanna get more hits

a little nitpick; beserker axes has base speed of 0. to get 3frame ww, -34wias is needed. that's the reason why you need at least +34 ias in that grief to make the weapon reach that wias =)

SummonFoo
01-11-2008, 05:18 AM
wow is all i can say...


imo crafted blood belt is better than arachs. godly ones can spawn with +life, +str, +fhr and 10% open wounds.. great for ow stacking.



a little nitpick; beserker axes has base speed of 0. to get 3frame ww, -34wias is needed. that's the reason why you need at least +34 ias in that grief to make the weapon reach that wias =)

N V
01-11-2008, 08:15 AM
same. -34 ias, so you need at least 34 ias in grief to cancel it? wow.

the lower (more -ias) you have on a weapon the better (faster) it is.

apart from that, its just a half decent guide. needs better formating. its difficult to read and not very organized. room for improvement here.

just keep improving it as you get suggestions and you'll do fine :)

Todd
01-11-2008, 08:26 AM
Err Life tap wont Cast in WW....

Know the Cool thing about FC bears No One knows What they Are til the Bear killsem a few times :D Its never included in guides so it cool ^^

At the Top You say its a BvC but you Made him more like a BvA=Barb v All. Cause you have Zealers Wolves Other barbs Why Even include a Vs Melee For a Vs Caster?

You said To Delete the Barb if they loose to a WWsin? Alot of Wwsins Suck becouse Of No skill So If you run into a good one....Your advice isnt really helpful

What about Shout No shout?

Several other problems like

You say to put on a shield for Melee But Your Block will be EXTREMELY Low Almost completly usless. and So far What do you duel in Pubs? thats not a Good enough way to test a Build in fact thats one of the worse.

barb_king
02-01-2008, 10:07 PM
Hey man i was jus wondering why dnt you jus use MP nigma instead of bp? base baba str is 30 +plus anni and Torch could reach to 55str no sweat....i believe mage plate nig is 55str to use?? more def to :P and also also maybe coz im blind i ddnt see a rabies druid strategy....i was jus interested on how ud duel them...

Komeaon
02-28-2008, 11:45 PM
nice thank you it will come in handy i am sure

s2000
05-14-2008, 09:05 PM
overall nice build barb

theOG22093
05-14-2008, 09:39 PM
Err Life tap wont Cast in WW....

Know the Cool thing about FC bears No One knows What they Are til the Bear killsem a few times :D Its never included in guides so it cool ^^

At the Top You say its a BvC but you Made him more like a BvA=Barb v All. Cause you have Zealers Wolves Other barbs Why Even include a Vs Melee For a Vs Caster?

You said To Delete the Barb if they loose to a WWsin? Alot of Wwsins Suck becouse Of No skill So If you run into a good one....Your advice isnt really helpful

What about Shout No shout?

Several other problems like

You say to put on a shield for Melee But Your Block will be EXTREMELY Low Almost completly usless. and So far What do you duel in Pubs? thats not a Good enough way to test a Build in fact thats one of the worse.

FC Shapeshifters really aren't that good compared to other options. There over-rated IMO.

LethalBarb
07-02-2008, 12:04 AM
nice

Safashton
08-04-2008, 09:17 PM
Why do you have Frenzy with a WW build? I'm new at the game sorta, so not sure why that would help this build. Infact i dont even really know how Frenzy works, can you use it, then like switch and WW and the effects from frenzy increase speed will Speed up WW?

Rhd999
08-05-2008, 12:33 AM
It won't speed up WW, only weapon IAS does that i think.

dainbramage
08-05-2008, 12:47 PM
The movespeed bonus still applies, though. It'd probably look interesting to see a barb whirling at ridiculous speeds.

®@þþ3¬
08-05-2008, 02:20 PM
Im ammazed that Omni didnt bash this thread becuase he wants to use a Cta+hoto/wc spear. More life at the cost of lower def...

OMNICIDE!!111one

Valanceer
08-20-2008, 12:49 AM
i personally want to give up on barbs ive made 2 ww barbs and both can barely beat hell andy after using all of there pots

so can someone plz tell me a good pvm and pvp barb or a good hybrid that uses the same gear?