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theOG22093
07-01-2008, 02:45 AM
Ok, I've been playing around with her for about 2 months now. I'm finally starting to get the feel for her, and should be finishing up the last bit of mostly-used gear, before I start up on my stash gear options.

Current Gear-

~Helmet~
2Assassin/20Fcr/19Strength/ColdStack/12 all other Resists Circlet 15ias/15all Jewel'd.

~Armor~
762 Roll Dusk Nigma (The defense doesn't really matter, but I like the look)

~Claws~
Fools Mod'd/20Base Ias/262Ed/2Shadow Master Greater Talons Nef'd
1Venom/1DF/3Mind Blast Chaos Greater Talons
3LS Fury Greater Talons
50Resist Jade Talon

~Gloves/Belt/Boots~
Trang-Oul's Claws
118Ed Arachnids Mesh
2/25 Shadow Dancers

~Jewelry~
30Resist Maras
20/236 Ravenfrost
10Fcr/20Strength/6dex/13Life/35Mana Crafted Ring

~Charms~
20/20 Sin Torch
20/14/10 Annihilus
5x Shadow Lifers (40/37/35/30/30)
4x Trap Lifers (30/30/35/28)
2x 5Fhr/mana Scs
8x Life/resists Scs

I've talked with Mephy about it, and I'm gonna look for a better Fools and Chaos, that will add more to my LS, and replace the trap lifers with Shadow lifers.

I really don't know what I should do about stash gear yet, looking for opinions. As far as widowmaker goes, I tried it with my Bvc, and it really didnt help much.

orc_dragoon
07-01-2008, 02:57 AM
is this ladder, single player or what

theOG22093
07-01-2008, 03:00 AM
is this ladder, single player or what

I doubt anyone has this much in Ladder right now, and Pvp seems a little pointless in SP.
West NL Softcore.

Also what are your opinions on 1 point into dragon talon?

2.0
07-01-2008, 05:01 AM
2/10

She's ez. :p

theOG22093
07-01-2008, 05:19 AM
2/10

She's ez. :p

zZzZzZz
Your sorc is ez.

mephiztophelez
07-01-2008, 12:48 PM
I've talked with Mephy about it, and I'm gonna look for a better Fools and Chaos, that will add more to my LS, and replace the trap lifers with Shadow lifers.
yup. some nice shadow lifers will do wonders if you can combine with some better claws. get some more venom happening and at least equal LS damage.

I really don't know what I should do about stash gear yet, looking for opinions. As far as widowmaker goes, I tried it with my Bvc, and it really didnt help much.
don't bother with a widow.

zZzZzZz
Your sorc is ez.
hyb'sins should ez sorks dude. not the other way around.... (http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7476/joshvsorkfw6.jpg)

:D

dammit, i think i need to be able to use spirit/highlords. need 5 str. 86%fhr and a 6frame smite should do wonders. or do you want some sin v sin?

theOG22093
07-01-2008, 04:27 PM
yup. some nice shadow lifers will do wonders if you can combine with some better claws. get some more venom happening and at least equal LS damage.


don't bother with a widow.


hyb'sins should ez sorks dude. not the other way around.... (http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7476/joshvsorkfw6.jpg)

:D

dammit, i think i need to be able to use spirit/highlords. need 5 str. 86%fhr and a 6frame smite should do wonders. or do you want some sin v sin?

Either is good for practice. And I find sorcs harder than smiters and such, they just tele away and cast its hard to keep up. Once I get more used of these hotkeys maybe Ill do a little better. I should use my Jade Talon vs sorcs right?

2.0
07-01-2008, 06:46 PM
Yeah, I try to stay on the edges of your screen/off your screen and place blizzards on the edge, as close as I can get to you without actually seeing you. O_o

Because... if I get to close to the traps I'm ****ed.

mephiztophelez
07-01-2008, 10:10 PM
And I find sorcs harder than smiters and such, they just tele away and cast its hard to keep up.
unlike vs smiters when you can camp your traps and wait for me to come to you?

I should use my Jade Talon vs sorcs right?

ideally, err, no. you "should' have max res without it. that jade should be kept for vs particularly good FoH'ers.

and yes, hotkey use is key to getting the best out of a 'sin.

theOG22093
07-01-2008, 10:26 PM
unlike vs smiters when you can camp your traps and wait for me to come to you?
Well for that particular situation, I felt camping was the best option to get the most out of the duel. You usually come to me, and I just WW away while you take LS's. Unfortunately, that smiter is a great tank and usually gets to me right before I get to him, some gg duels though. Looking forward to more in the future bro.



ideally, err, no. you "should' have max res without it. that jade should be kept for vs particularly good FoH'ers.
I think my resists are like 75/5x/5x/5x with fade, something I intend to fix in the future. Charms is the only thing I can see, and I don't do Anya quests.

and yes, hotkey use is key to getting the best out of a 'sin.
Im getting more familiar with it each day O_O

Rhd999
07-03-2008, 03:01 PM
I've never played a WW sin, but from the looks of it I'd say 6.5/10.

theOG22093
07-03-2008, 07:03 PM
I've never played a WW sin, but from the looks of it I'd say 6.5/10.

Your West NL?

mephiztophelez
07-03-2008, 11:02 PM
I think my resists are like 75/5x/5x/5x with fade, something I intend to fix in the future. Charms is the only thing I can see, and I don't do Anya quests.
yup, res/lifer sc's are how you plug holes in res. that and/or a ring.

if your getting single-res sc's, i'd suggest getting Lit, Fire and Poison resis sorted first. reason being that cold sorks shred ur res anyways, so may as well deal with that as needed.

i do the anya quests, but i don't factor them in when calculating res, it's an extra 30% as needed.

Crimson-tide
07-04-2008, 05:59 AM
So whats the damage on this sin? Kinda hard to rate without knowing that :P.. For straight up gear.. id give you at least a 5/10. 25/2 Shadow Dancers are hawt. + 42% BP for tele.

K1llersnipe
07-04-2008, 07:14 PM
sorry im kinda knew but how do you get whirlwind on assassin?

Rhd999
07-04-2008, 09:45 PM
Your West NL?

Yes.

sorry im kinda knew but how do you get whirlwind on assassin?

Chaos runeword.

Legendary Slasher
07-05-2008, 12:20 AM
whats ur ww dmg?

theOG22093
07-05-2008, 08:10 AM
So whats the damage on this sin? Kinda hard to rate without knowing that :P.. For straight up gear.. id give you at least a 5/10. 25/2 Shadow Dancers are hawt. + 42% BP for tele.

Damage:
Whirlwind~ 3.3k After Venom (With +1 from cta)
Lightning Sentry~ 6.8k

As far as teleing goes, this build hits 65fcr.

Sorry I havn't been on much the last 2 days, the fan in my CPU broke so it would auto shutoff after it got hot, which was like 15minutes lol.

Crimson-tide
07-06-2008, 01:01 AM
Seems good enough IMO. Try it out then rate it yourself at this point.

theOG22093
07-06-2008, 01:12 AM
Seems good enough IMO. Try it out then rate it yourself at this point.

If your west nl you can form your own opinion. :)

Crimson-tide
07-06-2008, 05:14 PM
If your west nl you can form your own opinion. :)

Alas, im Useast Nl :(.

theOG22093
07-08-2008, 06:14 AM
Alas, im Useast Nl :(.

:(
Whirlwind: 3.2k after venom
Lightning Sentry: 7.1k
Life: 3.9k

Nosferatu
07-20-2008, 09:41 PM
8.99/10 overall.

Sometimes you get impatient and mess up somehow though. ^_^

theOG22093
07-20-2008, 11:11 PM
8.99/10 overall.

Sometimes you get impatient and mess up somehow though. ^_^

Indeed, chasing a druid is not the best tactic. ^ ^

Nosferatu
07-21-2008, 06:40 AM
Indeed, chasing a druid is not the best tactic. ^ ^

Vouch, lol.

theOG22093
07-21-2008, 03:36 PM
Vouch, lol.

I think this is the highest I'll get:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/derrick12345678910/Screenshot058-1.jpg

And ofc, the 65/48 build on sin:
*Chillin in channel*
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/derrick12345678910/Screenshot060-1.jpg

*Stats(Melee Setup)*
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/derrick12345678910/Screenshot062-1.jpg

*Stats(Casters)*
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/derrick12345678910/Screenshot063-1.jpg

theOG22093
07-21-2008, 03:51 PM
And ofc the secks boots
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/derrick12345678910/Screenshot064-1.jpg

Lol:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/derrick12345678910/Screenshot067.jpg

Ya im bored:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/derrick12345678910/Screenshot068-1.jpg

Hesserone
07-21-2008, 04:19 PM
Kind of disturbing......

theOG22093
07-21-2008, 04:39 PM
Kind of disturbing......

nou

Rhd999
07-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Kind of disturbing......

Vouch

theOG22093
07-21-2008, 11:00 PM
Vouch

??

Nosferatu
07-22-2008, 12:40 AM
And ofc the secks boots
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm120/derrick12345678910/Screenshot064-1.jpg


Imps aren't secks. ``

theOG22093
07-22-2008, 02:28 AM
Imps aren't secks. ``

You're just mad you don't have any. Imps ARE teh secks.

2.0
07-22-2008, 02:37 AM
Imps are actually some the worst Duped .08 boots available. O:

Nosferatu
07-22-2008, 03:41 AM
Imps are actually some the worse Duped .08 boots available. O:

'

Oilerfan
07-22-2008, 04:21 AM
Imps are actually some the worse Duped .08 boots available. O:

Vouch

mephiztophelez
07-22-2008, 07:07 AM
You're just mad you don't have any. Imps ARE teh secks.
nope. imps are teh crap.

any and all duped shizz is crap. besides, fire/lit/COLD res is what you want on boots.... not poison.....

theOG22093
07-22-2008, 04:12 PM
nope. imps are teh crap.

any and all duped shizz is crap. besides, fire/lit/COLD res is what you want on boots.... not poison.....

Yea but they still are good boots, people are just comparing them to some of the other 08s that are BETTER. Mines are perm, and you guys can keep wearing the Treks etc, I only use them on my bvc.

Imps are actually some the worst Duped .08 boots available. O:

Didn't yours poof?

Nosferatu
07-22-2008, 08:39 PM
Didn't yours poof?

LOL SLAM.


Imp's are overrated and overused...

theOG22093
07-22-2008, 10:17 PM
LOL SLAM.


Treks are overrated and overused...

Agree'd

Nosferatu
07-25-2008, 03:14 PM
Agree'd

Get S Stalkers trick.

theOG22093
07-25-2008, 05:39 PM
Get S Stalkers trick.

Don't they lack fhr?
Aren't those the ones with like 30frw/dex/str/resis? Fhr is kinda essential.
I'm actually debating a 2/20/2 Shael/ 15/15'd hat with Imps against the Normal Rare 2/20 Hat 15/15'd and Dancers. I'm currently ONLY using Imps for Hybrid v Hybrid.

Nosferatu
07-26-2008, 01:46 AM
Don't they lack fhr?
Aren't those the ones with like 30frw/dex/str/resis? Fhr is kinda essential.
I'm actually debating a 2/20/2 Shael/ 15/15'd hat with Imps against the Normal Rare 2/20 Hat 15/15'd and Dancers. I'm currently ONLY using Imps for Hybrid v Hybrid.

1) Bitter Brogues
2) Bitter Slippers
3) Blood Track
4) Bone Nails
5) Carrion Brogues
6) Carrion Nails
7) Cruel Brogues
8) Death Spur
9) Death Tread
10) Doom Stalker
11) Dread Greaves Chain "DGCBs"
12) Dread Greaves Light Plated "DGLPs"
13) Eagle Brogues
14) Fiend Stalker
15) Ghoul Track
16) Glyph Trample
17) Havoc Shank
18) Imp Shank
19) Order Spur
20) Plague Spur
21) Shadow Stalker
22) Spirit Tread
23) Storm Greaves
24) Storm Track
25) Storm Trample
26) Wraith Brand
27) Wraith Spur

1) Bitter Brogues Greaves
Defense: 12
Durability: 24
Required Strength: 70
Required Level: 45
30% Faster Run/Walk
+19 To Strength
+13 To Dexterity
Fire Resist +18%
Cold Resist +17%
Lightning Resist +29%

2) Bitter Slippers Chain Boots
Defense: 8
Durability: 16
Required Strength: 30
Required Level: 22
30% Faster Run/Walk
+19 To Strength
Fire Resist +23%
Cold Resist +11%
Lightning Resist +43%
34% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items

3) Blood Track War Boots
Defense: 106
Durability: 24
Required Strength: 125
Required Level: 45
30% Faster Run/Walk
+97% Enhanced Defence
+18 To Strength
+13 To Dexterity
Lightning Resist +5%
Poison Resist +12%

4) Bone Nails Boots
Defense: 2
Durability: 12
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+16 To Strength
+13 To Dexterity
Cold Resist +26%
Fire Resist +48%
Poison Resist +22%

5) Carrion Brogues Boots
Defense: 2
Durability: 12
Required Level: 22
30% Faster Run/Walk
+18 To Strength
+4 To Dexterity
Fire Resist +39%
Cold Resist +27%
Lightning Resist +28%

7) Cruel Brogues Heavy Boots
Defense: 5
Durability: 14
Required Strength: 18
Required Level: 46
30% Faster Run/Walk
+12 To Strength
+13 To Dexterity
Heal Stamina Plus 50%
Fire Resist +48%
Lightning Resist +23%

8) Death Spur Heavy Boots
Defense: 5
Durability: 14
Required Strength: 18
Required Level: 45
30% Faster Run/Walk
+17 To Strength
+11 To Dexterity
Fire Resist +22%
Cold Resist +29%
Lightning Resist +11%

9) Death Tread Heavy Boots
Defense: 5
Durability: 14
Required Strength: 18
Required Level: 46
39% Faster Run/Walk
+13 To Strength
+12 To Dexterity
Fire Resist +28%
Cold Resist +29%
Lightning Resist +24%

11) Dread Greaves Chain Boots
Defense: 18
Durability: 80
Required Strength: 30
Required Level: 27
30% Faster Walk/Run
20% Faster Hit Recovery
+89% Enhanced Defense
+19 To Strength
Cold Resist +31%
Fire Resist +45%

12) Dread Greaves Light Plated Boots
Defense: 17
Durability: 18
Required Strength: 50
Required Level: 22
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+46% Enhanced Defense
+18 To Strength
Cold Resist +45%
Lightning Resist +44%

14) Fiend Stalker War Boots
Defense: 43
Durability: 24
Required Level: 45
30% Faster Run/Walk
+17 To Strength
+13 To Dexterity
Fire Resist +36%
Lightning Resist +45%
Poison Resist +18%

15) Ghoul Track Heavy Boots
Defense: 5
Durability: 14
Required Strength: 18
Required Level: 22
30% Faster Run/Walk
+16 To Strength
+11 To Life
Fire Resist +26%
Cold Resist +43%
Lightning Resist +44%

16) Glyph Trample Battle Boots
Defense: 57
Durability: ??
20% Faster Run/Walk
+83% Enhanced Defense
+17 To Strength
+9 To Dexterity
Heal Stamina Plus 50%
Cold Resist +43%

18) Imp Shank Chain Boots
Defense: 8
Durability: 80
Required Strength: 30
Required Level: 41
30% Faster Run/Walk
20% Faster Hit Recovery
+18 To Strength
Fire Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +49%
Poison Resist +22%

19) Order Spur Heavy Boots
Defense: 5
Durability: 14
Required Strength: 18
Required Level: 41
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+19 To Strength
Cold Resist +49%
Lightning Resist +48%
Fire Resist +29%

20) Plague Spur War Boots
Defense: 46
Durability: 24
Required Strength: 125
Required Level: 45
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+18 To Strength
+12 To Dexterity
Lightning Resist +35%
Fire Resist +48%
Poison Resist +22%

21) Shadow Stalker Heavy Boots
Defense: 5
Durability: 14
Required Strength: 18
Required Level: 22
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+18 To Strength
Cold Resist +32%
Lightning Resist +43%
Fire Resist +15%

23) Storm Greaves Greaves
Defense: 27
Durability: 24
Required Strength: 70
Required Level: 45
30% Faster Run/Walk
20% Faster Hit Recovery
+71% Enhanced Defense
+13 To Dexterity
Fire Resist +31%
Cold Resist +45%

24) Storm Track War Boots
Defense: 51
Durability: 24
Required Strength: 125
Required Level: 45
30% Faster Run/Walk
+19 To Strength
+13 To Dexterity
+11 To Mana
Fire Resist +49%
Lightning Resist +38%

25) Storm Trample Boots
Defense: 2
Durability: 12
20% Faster Run/Walk
Heal Stamina Plus 50%
Cold Resist +22%
Lightning Resist +22%
34% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items

26) Wraith Brand Light Plated Boots
Defense: 9
Durability: 18
Required Strength: 50
Required Level: 41
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+19 To Strength
Cold Resist +49%
Lightning Resist +48%
Fire Resist +48%

27) Wraith Spur War Boots
Defense: 104
Durability: 24
Required Strength: 125
Required Level: 45
30% Faster Run/Walk
+93% Enhanced Defense
+19 To Strength
+14 To Dexterity
Fire Resist +22%
Cold Resist +6%


iso:
6) Carrion Nails
10) Doom Stalker
13) Eagle Brogues
16) Glyph Trample
17) Havoc Shank
22) Spirit Tread


I made up this list myself btw.

If you get s/s's of;
6) Carrion Nails
10) Doom Stalker
13) Eagle Brogues
16) Glyph Trample
17) Havoc Shank
22) Spirit Tread

then I will love you.

2.0
07-26-2008, 01:52 AM
Yea but they still are good boots, people are just comparing them to some of the other 08s that are BETTER. Mines are perm, and you guys can keep wearing the Treks etc, I only use them on my bvc.



Didn't yours poof?
Yes.

But I got mine for free. So, no loss.

theOG22093
07-26-2008, 02:37 AM
Yes.

But I got mine for free. So, no loss.

Lol
And @faygo
Ok now I remember what boots those are, and they aren't no where near to 650fg.

And everyone knows WBLPB's>all

Nosferatu
07-26-2008, 01:53 PM
Lol
And @faygo
Ok now I remember what boots those are, and they aren't no where near to 650fg.

And everyone knows WBLPB's>all

...yea, but, can you afford that? No? Sit.

theOG22093
07-26-2008, 10:00 PM
...yea, but, can you afford that? No? Sit.

Can you? In fact you can't afford Imps, the bad ones. ./sit

mephiztophelez
07-29-2008, 01:48 AM
Can you? In fact you can't afford Imps, the bad ones. ./sit

phail.

i can afford pretty much anything in this game.

i wouldn't use Imps or Brands or any other such duped, poofable trash.

theOG22093
07-29-2008, 02:22 AM
phail.

i can afford pretty much anything in this game.

i wouldn't use Imps or Brands or any other such duped, poofable trash.

I wasn't talking to you mephy, shhh.
My Imps are Perm btw. And Tienje also uses Imps :)
Where you been lately?

mephiztophelez
08-01-2008, 12:16 AM
My Imps are Perm btw.
lol?

ysopoppedimpsjosh?

theOG22093
08-01-2008, 12:58 AM
lol?

ysopoppedimpsjosh?

wtfpwnt lol. iss all good, getting refund +extra.

mephiztophelez
08-05-2008, 02:45 PM
wtfpwnt lol. iss all good, getting refund +extra.

lol, i'll believe that when i see it.

anyways, you seem to have sorted out your fire resists which is good. so no more pwnage with fire sork (which is as it should be) :p

theOG22093
08-05-2008, 02:55 PM
lol, i'll believe that when i see it.

anyways, you seem to have sorted out your fire resists which is good. so no more pwnage with fire sork (which is as it should be) :p

Ya. Remade (Lost count) again.
7.6k LS
3.1k WW
4.2k Life

:)
Max resis in hell also, but I mostly duel in NM.

Also got a Nec going:
6.1k Spear
3.1k Life

Still working on the charms, currents are 9x20-30s.