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prod689
01-06-2008, 03:55 PM
FCR Based Elemental Druid
by prod689


I am building this guide the way I built my druid, and seems pretty successful. I'm sure you'll have questions.


1. Intro
2. Stats
3. Skills
4. Gear
5. Strategy (PVP)
6. End Damage

1.Intro

I know there is many wind druid guides out there. I'm not going to sit here and say that mine is better than anyone elses. I see a lot of people building their druids around damage and just accepting the 99% fcr as the way to go for more damage. I can understand from an rich/poor perspective why people would choose the 99fcr over the 163. I would like people to understand just how important the 163 fcr build really is though. I've dueled lots of damage based druids and my build wins 85% of the time. Not because I'm really good, but because the cast rate allows you to do things that the normal damage build does not. Just hear me out. As always no guide is perfect and I am always open for suggestions. Anyways, on to the guide.

2. Stats

Strength: Enough for gear. (Preferably MagePlate Enigma, 55 str)
Dexterity: JUST ENOUGH FOR GEAR. Don't try to go for max block here. I'll explain later.
Vitality: Obviously put everything into this stat.
Energy: Don't waste anything here. Just leave at base.

3. Skills

Elemental Skills:

Artic Blast: 1 (I know this sucks but o well)
Cyclone Armor : 20 (This will save you time and time again. A no brainer)
Twister: 20 (Synergy for your main skills, MUY IMPORTANTE!)
Tornado: 20 (This is your main attack, bar none.)
Hurricane: 20 (This is also a must, synergy and awesome helper.)

Summoning Skills:

Raven: 1 (Kind of nice, puts some zons in their dodge frame)
Spirit wolves: 1 (Helper with smiters and bowazons and FC zons)
Dire wolves: 1 (Have to do it in order to get bear)
Bear: 20 (I'll explain later)*
Oak Sage: Whatever points you have left.

*Maxed out bear is important for dueling in this regard. I know I'll get killed for not maxing Oak sage but the damage from a maxed out bear is awesome. When teleing around it will hold its own not only with damage but becomes a good tank shield for the druid. Although, I would not suggest dueling smiters/chargers/bowazons with just the bear, their desynch will give you a bad day if you do. BUT, for all other characters the bear will tear them up while you tele on top of them. I notice when I duel sorcs necros or anything that runs away from you tornado, that as long as you can get close to them the bear will hit them causing fairly decent damage. The oak sage is nice yes, but I didn't max it but still have 3.2k life.

4. Gear

Ok, this is the fairly expensive part. But if you want a good druid, you will pay the price to get it. I promise you will not be disappointed.

Helm:

Most druid circs have +2 to elemental or druid skills with 20% fcr and some other mods. Try to get a +3 to elemental with 20 fcr. Regardless which helm you use whether it even has skills or not, the fcr is the important part. THIS IS A MUST IN ORDER TO HIT 163 FCR BP!
Its expensive but looks better than the stupid green and blue helms like pelt and such. (Remember FCR over damage) Whatever helm you choose you should socket it with a Shael (20% to fhr).

Armor:

There is ONLY ONE CHOICE, and that is Enigma. Try, really really try to get mage plate due to strength cost. If you have to settle for a little higher strength nigma then do so, but really try to get MP nigma.

Ammy:

This will get a little expensive also. Try and find or trade or buy an amulet with +1 or +2 to skills and 10% fcr. Again, this is very important for this build. You have to have this in order to hit BP (legitimately ;)) Other mods that accompany these ammy's will help too, especially if you can find one with strength AND resists.

Belt:

There is only one choice here for the FCR build. Arachnids Mesh. You can't get any better for this build. +1 to skills and 20 FCR, you get the picture.

Boots:

Sandstorm Treks is a great option here. FHR and strength mods is definately needed to equip full gear.

Weapon:

Absolutely positively no other option. HOTO or "Heart of the Oak" 40% FCR +3 to skills, mana boost and resists. Can't beat it. Actually you need it.

SWITCH

A 3-6 BO Call to Arms. Every character needs this.

Shield:

Since we are not going for max block or anything like that, Spirit Monarch shield is the only option. HAS TO BE AT LEAST 33-35 FCR for this build to work right. Breaking point, breaking point, keep thinking breaking point.

SWITCH

To maximize your BO you need a spirit. Low, high it doesnt really matter.

Rings:

YOU need rings that have 10% FCR on them. The other mods that usually accompany these rings are just a bonus, nice to have though. Some are expensive and others people might just give you.

Gloves:

Some people have different preferences on gloves with fcr. I personally like Magefist due to the mana regen. Some like Trangs for the resists. Choose one, as long as you have the 20% FCR you're doing fine.

In your inventory you should have:

9x Elemental Gc's. If you can afford lifers and fhr mod'd ele gc's do so, otherwise just have the ele gc's.

Druid torch. The closer to perfect the better...obviously

Anni. This is a must have item for the same obvious reasons as torch.

If you can, fill the rest of your inventory up with either lifer small charms or resists small charms, totally up to you.


All this being said, lets breakdown the FCR for gear...

Helm: 20%
Weapon: 40%
Belt: 20%
Shield: 33-35%
Rings: 20% ( 10% and 10%)
Ammy: 10%
Gloves: 20%

Now if your lucky enough to come across a perf Spirit Monarch you will have 165% Fcr. Thus breaking, well, the breaking point.

5. Strategy (PVP)

The whole point of this build is to spam and spam...and spam some more. With the 163 Bp you will be able to spam like no one else (DAMN U TMC). You can cast twice the amout of tornados doing more damage and tele/spamming is absolutly a beautiful thing. You can cast 4 tornados and telespam some more before those 4 have even worn out.

Dueling suggestions for the different classes.

Smiters/Chargers/Bowazons.

Now days, these builds are tough. Damage is much higher for zons, Desynching has become a norm for smiter chargers. Desynch can cause major problems for you if you dont stay busy teleporting and spamming.
You will need those Spirit wolves and oak sage AND ravens. This should cover you up fairly well against most smiters.
Use the same summons for bowzons. Same technique and everything as smiter. They will mulitshot you and your minions will die, but the whole point is having enough protection to get to her. Then let her rip.

Sorcs and Necro and other teleing casters.

This is where the bear becomes worth its points. When you tele/spam you aren't going to hit 100% of the time, you bear should hit more often than your tornados. His damage and life will tank some spirits and cold, light and fire enough for you to Rip them apart. CYCLONE ARMOR...don't ever leave town without it. PERIOD.

Barbs and Hammerdins.

When your spamming the tornados make sure you are always out of the way of an incoming ww. You will not tank it. Tele on either side of them (whichever way the ww is going) and spam. Most people that duel with barbs are not scared to think they can tank your tornados. Prove them wrong.
Hammerdins can be tough if you duel really good ones. Most good pvp's know where to tele on you and how their hammers operate. Spam and tele. You generally can spam nados' and sit in them, when they try and tele on to you...They will die.

Javazons.

Be careful of these ones. Most if not all javazon pvp is all Farcasted now. Your bear and ravens combo should help you at least tank a few blows and if lucky, set the zon into her dodge frame. Move in to kill and kill fast. Make sure that if you duel javazon they do not hit you more than once or twice. ALWAYS RELOAD YOUR CYCLONE ARMOR.

Sins. (Primarily trappers)

Trapper sins usually play very defensive. They will wait for you to make the move to come to them. Make this a boring duel. Trust me, picking an assassin is a character trait of the one playing it. They typically like lots of damage and are not very patient. Play smart and play fast. Spam and tele like hell. Your patience should overcome their need for fishing you. You can tank some of their traps but not all. Just tele/spam.

6. End damage

Your damage and life should be somewhat similar to this.

6.3k to 6.7k tornados
2.9k hurricane
With sage life should be around 3.2k

Anyways, I hope you like this guide. FCR is so important for druids in dueling. FCR can mean the difference between getting nk'd or enjoying the other people complaining about how the can't hit you fast enough.

I hope as I write more guides that I will get a little bit better. Let me know what you think. Please give credit where credit is due.

- prod_689

Wrongbow
01-08-2008, 11:40 PM
Very nice guide overall, but Oak Sage > Bear, the bear will die fast since most PvPers can dish out high amounts of damage fast, but the sage will keep close to you and have a harder time being killed, plus extra life is better than extra damage.

prod689
01-09-2008, 12:34 PM
This build isn't a tank build. Try out this build and tell how you like it. Bear is an amazing asset that is really underestimated. Thanks for your comments.

Daventry
01-11-2008, 06:10 AM
Considering the grizzly is the druid's top summon, I think you have a solid build. I'm also not a pvp person, so oak is not an issue and you show more than enough health to solo hell.

prod689
01-11-2008, 02:21 PM
Considering the grizzly is the druid's top summon, I think you have a solid build. I'm also not a pvp person, so oak is not an issue and you show more than enough health to solo hell.

Dank you berry much

jguilmette
01-11-2008, 04:14 PM
well,finaly decided and tried this build.awesome!
level 85 and he rocks.now just need to get a few more items to be perfect,thanks!

prod689
01-11-2008, 04:22 PM
Glad it helped someone. Druids are awesome!

Enigma
01-12-2008, 07:50 PM
wellll mine always gets owned by even the crappiest hammerdins =[

Nosferatu
01-13-2008, 05:40 PM
Haha I love taking out a nec and using teeth on druids, it takes out all of their summons :D

If it isn't a tank build then why are you maxing bear...?

prod689
01-14-2008, 01:24 PM
I max bear for the damage it gives the druid. When you tele around certain chars, it will hit almost all the time causing fairly decent damage.

Nosferatu
01-14-2008, 10:58 PM
Mmmm gotcha, i'ma put like 5 into oak, rest bear...

Landau14
01-18-2008, 09:26 PM
I might come out stupid as hell, but why aren't you using 20 FCR ammy?

cthulhu dawn127
01-20-2008, 10:47 PM
this doesn't hit the 99% FHR bp, is that bad? or should I go for FHR charms to get to that bp? And is max block important or with this build I definitely should go for all into vit? I am definitely goin for this build it sounds great

Nosferatu
01-20-2008, 11:10 PM
6.3k Nado
2.8k Hurricane
3.3k Hp

.......

prod689
01-24-2008, 01:36 PM
I might come out stupid as hell, but why aren't you using 20 FCR ammy?

I personally have never seen a + to skill 20 fcr ammy. If you find one id love to trade you for it :D

saracen85
01-24-2008, 02:05 PM
^^something like this?

Doom Talisman
Amulet
Required Level: 49
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 94
Fingerprint: 0x8c9a8cd
+17 to Mana
Regenerate Mana 4%
Fire Resist +29%
Poison Resist +35%
+1 to Sorceress Skill Levels
20% Faster Cast Rate

/showoff =)

Landau14
01-24-2008, 04:25 PM
lol that's some sweet ammy.
But yeah, there are plenty, most of the duped/bugged.
But you can craft yourself one. getting 20 FCR won't be so hard, and you can settle for less Godly mods...

Just mentioned it so you can use the ammy then freeing space of other items, that they're pros are better..

cthulhu dawn127
01-24-2008, 06:48 PM
I once saw a 2 to druid 18% fcr and i have a nice Fletch ammy wit 2 to sorc skills and 20% fcr, prolly duped though haha oh well I'm enjoying it while it lasts =D

kenji51590
01-25-2008, 01:44 PM
hey very nice guide man

prod689
01-25-2008, 02:29 PM
Thx

Liachem
03-22-2008, 12:07 AM
I always thought Hurricane was best for a druid, although with all the FCR in your guide, I suppose Tornado is good.

Belhemel
03-23-2008, 01:54 AM
Cane is good for slowing and pulse damage but the nados are the killers here. The only problem is aiming them but thats why you spam spam spam!

kwittstruck
04-04-2008, 01:43 AM
This build decent for PvM SP?

jguilmette
04-04-2008, 12:13 PM
Ive been using mine for both........only thing is in PvP, I switch my hoto for a wiz spike,the resist and all that fcr bring me up to 170 fcr,tele around and spam,you win

Nosferatu
04-05-2008, 06:02 AM
Made it. It fails hard. Only reason its so awesome is bc I am 1337. -.-

No honestly though you should make better gear choices. Ele>Most anyways. So who cares =D

Mistakes
04-07-2008, 09:52 PM
Not bad. I suggest going max oak and rest on bear//wolves.
You build ended with around 3.2k life.
My 92 windy has around 5.7k life.
That's also w/ lifer gcs and scs though.

My unperm windy (mb, dr, fcr) 5.4k life.

September 28, 1987
04-07-2008, 09:56 PM
My unperm windy (mb, dr, fcr) 5.4k life.

TMC?

I used to have 5.7k life on a MB build. Didn't use unperms either but I was only 99/99 which I didn't like.

Mistakes
04-07-2008, 10:01 PM
I can't stand not having the 163 bp. 99 feels so slow.

dainbramage
04-08-2008, 02:44 AM
I'd rate the 174% FHR breakpoint ahead of the 163% FCR. Not that either are feasible/possible with max block...

Nice TMC/wizgloves if you were hitting 10 frames with max block.

N V
04-08-2008, 08:14 AM
20 fcr amu
20 fcr helm
hoto
magefist
10 fcr ring x2
Arach
Viper

=170 fcr.

Will enable the use of SS for max block, if the circlet is 2 socket, double shael it for 40 fhr, shael the viper for another 20 which makes 60. Get rest of scs to reach 99. He never said he reached the 174 fhr bp ;)

dainbramage
04-08-2008, 09:38 AM
I was assuming he was using enigma (as pvp windies are junk without tele), making 155 (160 with an 08 valk) the most possible without FCR on the shield.

N V
04-08-2008, 10:41 AM
And in that case... TMC... -.-

September 28, 1987
04-08-2008, 01:33 PM
He did say "unperm" Druid therefore it would have all the top notch gear.

Wizzy Gloves are the main standout (50% FCR/75 Resists from a pair of Gloves) which are all unperm/impossible to find, etc and possibly an 08 Valk but that isn't needed.

TMC would probably cover it and he definitely has Enigma.

2 Druid/20% FCR Circlet - 20% FCR (probably a 5 Tornado Helm if TMC)
2 Druid/20% FCR Amulet - 20% FCR
Suicide Branch/Wizspike - 50% FCR
Enigma
Stormshield
Wizzy Gloves - 50% FCR
1x FCR Ring - 10% FCR
Arach - 20% FCR
Imps or whatever

That's 170 with a Circlet. 160% without but if he uses TMC, he would have even less FCR yet cast at 163%.

Sad but people do it.

saracen85
04-09-2008, 01:07 AM
actually it is possible to get 10frames with mb with LEGIT gear.. but i don't think it's the best choice (i don't pvp)


griffons (25)
enigma (since it's mecessary)
arach's (20)
magefist/trang's gloves (20)
any boots
wizspike (50)
stormshield
crafted ammy (20)
crafted rings (20)

total fcr = 165 = 10 frames casting.

orc_dragoon
04-09-2008, 01:14 AM
what merc should we use

Mistakes
04-09-2008, 07:17 PM
<--Got off for awhile.

Gear on unperm windy.

Nigma
08 Valk
Wizzy Gloves
Treks
SS
Spider
35 spirit sword
2x cast rings
cast ammy.
165 fcr.

9x 45 lifer gcz.
Perf anni.
Perf Torch.

And yes I know you can get Legit 40+ lifer gcs, perf anni and torch, seeing as I also have legit 40+ lifers on my other windy, and close to perf on both torch and anni.

It was just cheaper to get unperm, and it wasn't going to really matter anywayz. The char was going to be unperm as it was.

ayeaykay
05-02-2008, 01:55 AM
dang i feel bad tht i bought all those items for a normal pvp ele druid....although this seems very tempting.

i love the guide =]

dainbramage
05-03-2008, 05:57 AM
Now that it's been necrobumped...

griffons (25)
enigma (since it's mecessary)
arach's (20)
magefist/trang's gloves (20)
any boots
wizspike (50)
stormshield
crafted ammy (20)
crafted rings (20)

total fcr = 165 = 10 frames casting.
That's 155, same as I got. I threw in the valk as a few legit ones do exist.


As I said, nice wizgloves.

saracen85
05-03-2008, 08:33 AM
Now that it's been necrobumped...

That's 155, same as I got. I threw in the valk as a few legit ones do exist.


As I said, nice wizgloves.

whoops. my bad. hehe.

theOG22093
05-23-2008, 05:20 AM
IMO, 163 isn't needed. I would prefer even a decent 4Pelt over a circlet.

2.0
05-23-2008, 05:22 AM
IMO, 163 isn't needed. I would prefer even a decent 4Pelt over a circlet.
You can actually get 163 without a circlet. Heh.

theOG22093
06-24-2008, 06:17 AM
You can actually get 163 without a circlet. Heh.

But then you start sacrificing other stuff for fcr.

Nosferatu
06-24-2008, 08:38 AM
But then you start sacrificing other stuff for fcr.

Not really, asuming that you're using a 8/10FCR Druid ammy, you could just use an 18FCR one, and then use a 4/5Nado Pelt.

theOG22093
06-24-2008, 09:48 AM
Not really, asuming that you're using a 8/10FCR Druid ammy, you could just use an 18FCR one, and then use a 4/5Nado Pelt.

Pelt
20 Ammy
40 Hoto
35 Sheild
20 Gloves
20 Belt
20 Rings

See?

theOG22093
07-09-2008, 02:59 PM
Ammy:

This will get a little expensive also. Try and find or trade or buy an amulet with +1 or +2 to skills and 10% fcr. Again, this is very important for this build. You have to have this in order to hit BP (legitimately ) Other mods that accompany these ammy's will help too, especially if you can find one with strength AND resists.

Helmet: 20Fcr (Circlet)
Weapon: 50Fcr (Wizzy)
Sheild: 35Fcr (Spirit)
Gloves: 20Fcr (Mage/Trangs)
Belt: 20Fcr (Arachnids)
Rings: 20Fcr (2x10Rares)

165, without even needing to go to Valk/Griffs.

Onoma
07-21-2008, 07:42 PM
Ok so ive tryed this build a little feed back and mine turned out a little better than the way he made his . Ive got about 3700 HP. Honestly the build is good but the majority of the pvp builds not a days I would have to say that they are this builds WORST nightmare. And this is a matter of opinion so dont quote be and throw all these retarded facts out there about blahblah blah I dont care Im merely stating what ive seen. Fire Sorcs. Wow these guys will annoy the hell out of you. they constantly sit there spamming teleport and u cant ever get right on top of them to hit them and they will keep running intill you run out of mana and they can usually tell when the pursuit is over than they'll come after ur *** with that 26k Dmg fireball and its 1 shot. I mean im sure other people have experienced different things but right now im telling you. With 3700 HP cyclone armor at lvl 46 absorbing 3k Dmg I cant even take 1 fireball or its a 1 shot death and ive never evaded or dodged. Charging palys especially ones with a cold attack and a psn. Wow these guys are probably ***er than most hammerdins builds. I cannot even move an inch when these guys are charge spamming me. My FCR is dropped to like nothing and before my tele can even go off hes hit me again. Its instant death to even try to duel charging palys. They 3 shot me with the stats I have shown above every time.

Nosferatu
07-21-2008, 10:07 PM
This build sucks. Stfu.

Pelt
20 Ammy
40 Hoto
35 Sheild
20 Gloves
20 Belt
20 Rings

See?

155?

Use S Branch or Wizzy.

theOG22093
07-21-2008, 11:58 PM
This build sucks. Stfu.



155?

Use S Branch or Wizzy.

Again it evens itself out, you can either lose 3nado on the helm, 3skills on the weapon(wizzy), or 2skills and a crapload of resists.

Mistakes
10-10-2008, 07:21 AM
Few things...
You can just tele on top of most sorcs and necros and kill them with the 163% fcr bp. Same with hdins unless they're desynching.

You can usually wait for the asn to make a move then tele on top of it. Like you said, most asns play very defensively. And again, with the 163% fcr bp you can outcast most asns.

This build has low life? (For some reason?)
I have 1 windy druid with m/b ss and still about 4.2k life.
(TheElemental_PK)
My other is just the 163% fcr bp buid. Still about 4.6kish life.
(Naydo)

Also, other weapon options include Wizzy Spike for rez, and mana. (Also 50% fcr, leaves room for a soj or something).

Or Suicide Branch for the +40 life, mana, 50% fcr, and the additional +1 skill. Leaves the option for a different ring.

I still lean towards hoto on both of my druids. But I see LOTS of people using Suicide Branch.

And last but not least, Oak > Bear.

halone
11-24-2008, 10:16 PM
great build fcr on ele is awsome if you use it right but.. i disagreed on the bear.. you need more life with oak you get up to 8k life or so will make you tank alot.. and since your fcr is good you will suprice alot of people they wont see it coming use the bear at lvl 1 though still good

theOG22093
11-24-2008, 10:23 PM
Few things...
You can just tele on top of most sorcs and necros and kill them with the 163% fcr bp. Same with hdins unless they're desynching.

You can usually wait for the asn to make a move then tele on top of it. Like you said, most asns play very defensively. And again, with the 163% fcr bp you can outcast most asns.

This build has low life? (For some reason?)
I have 1 windy druid with m/b ss and still about 4.2k life.
(TheElemental_PK)
My other is just the 163% fcr bp buid. Still about 4.6kish life.
(Naydo)

Also, other weapon options include Wizzy Spike for rez, and mana. (Also 50% fcr, leaves room for a soj or something).

Or Suicide Branch for the +40 life, mana, 50% fcr, and the additional +1 skill. Leaves the option for a different ring.

I still lean towards hoto on both of my druids. But I see LOTS of people using Suicide Branch.

And last but not least, Oak > Bear.

Bad assassins play defensively. Whether it be on a Wwsin or a Trapper, I'd recommend playing extremely offensive against druids and taking advantage of their horrible Fhr.

Oak> Bear indeed