Would A Windy Druid On Single Player Be Any Good?

[cmlogu01]

Just what the title said. I started a windy druid on single player. But, one of my friends tells me it will never work.
So, since on single I won't have the jacked up skill levels from a crapload of charms, but do you still tink it'd work?

Right now, It's more of a windy summoning hybrid. This is what I eventually plan on having for skills:

Elemental
Arctic Blast-1
Cyclone Armor-20
Twister-20
Tornado-20
Hurricane-20
Summoning
Raven-1
Summon Spirit Wolf-5
Summon Dire Wolf-5
Summon Grizzly-20
Oak Sage-1
Heart of Wolverine-1


Do you think I'd be able to pull this off?

[kwittstruck]

No for 1 main reason, max skills you can have is 110, by my math there, you have 114 pts. drop the wolves, then it would be more possible, and cyclone armor i dont think is really nessessary, but the rest is good. just check out the skill planner i have in my sig, you can look at everything you need as far as damage and synergies and all that is calculated for you.

with 20 pts in cyclone armor, twister, tornado, and hurricain and grizzley you have 105 points used after prerequirements, that sticks you at lvl 95.
And second i dont know for sure if windy has some kind of elemental damage or if its phy or magical. in any case for that info i cant answer

[saracen85]

ok, first things first, you can complete SP with a windy. in fact you can complete the game with most builds if you're patient enough with it.

my take on a windy;

it is pretty cookie cutter and strong if you have at least that 99fcr bp.

it's basically like a hammerdin but the attacks are in straight lines instead of circles, with different type of damage and less of course.

it's nice to have a tank or two. 1 point in grizzly is actually enough in addition to your merc.

you'll probably max hurricane as a synergy so that can be your backup attack vs PIs. but a merc that can trigger off amp or decrep will make your life much easier.

and as for wind elemental attacks, twister/tornado are physical attacks but are not modified by might/conc/fana auras.

my sp windy info;

maxed skills (in order): tornado, twister, hurricane, cyclone armor
1 point grizzly, pre-requisites. remaining points into oak sage.

gear: jalal's mane, vipermagi, arach's, magefist, waterwalk, wizspike, 35fcr spirit monarch, rare +2 elemental/10fcr/resists/life ammy, ravenfrost and a bahamut's ring of accuracy.

i went for the 163 fcr setup here. but 99fcr works just as well plus more gear choices.

[theOG22093]

ok, first things first, you can complete SP with a windy. in fact you can complete the game with most builds if you're patient enough with it.

my take on a windy;

it is pretty cookie cutter and strong if you have at least that 99fcr bp.

it's basically like a hammerdin but the attacks are in straight lines instead of circles, with different type of damage and less of course.

it's nice to have a tank or two. 1 point in grizzly is actually enough in addition to your merc.

you'll probably max hurricane as a synergy so that can be your backup attack vs PIs. but a merc that can trigger off amp or decrep will make your life much easier.

and as for wind elemental attacks, twister/tornado are physical attacks but are not modified by might/conc/fana auras.

my sp windy info;

maxed skills (in order): tornado, twister, hurricane, cyclone armor
1 point grizzly, pre-requisites. remaining points into oak sage.

gear: jalal's mane, vipermagi, arach's, magefist, waterwalk, wizspike, 35fcr spirit monarch, rare +2 elemental/10fcr/resists/life ammy, ravenfrost and a bahamut's ring of accuracy.

i went for the 163 fcr setup here. but 99fcr works just as well plus more gear choices.

I guarentee this will be retardely impossible for you to pull off.....Make a sorceress hybrid or a fishymancer. If you don't know what a fishymancer is google it.

[saracen85]

I guarentee this will be retardely impossible for you to pull off.....Make a sorceress hybrid or a fishymancer. If you don't know what a fishymancer is google it.

sure a sorc or a fishy is good, but what's the point of having a choice of 5 other characters in the game that way?

i beg to differ that a windy is hard to pull off. maybe my setup is leans more towards the higher end, but with cheap gear, it can still beat the game. all it takes is patience and experience.

with my setup, i'm doing around 4k damage. with average gear setup, you can do around 2k damage which is imo decent even in hell. you can't really tear thru p8 hell, but it is possible. at p1, it's pretty much manageable.

reason not to max grizzly or go windy/summoner route?
1. you don't have enough points. without high-end gear, you'll need to max tornado + all its synergies for it to have good damage.

2. both deal same type of damage. in sp pvm play, that's risky should you come across PIs. maxing hurricane as a back-up skill should take precedence.

[theOG22093]

sure a sorc or a fishy is good, but what's the point of having a choice of 5 other characters in the game that way?

i beg to differ that a windy is hard to pull off. maybe my setup is leans more towards the higher end, but with cheap gear, it can still beat the game. all it takes is patience and experience.

with my setup, i'm doing around 4k damage. with average gear setup, you can do around 2k damage which is imo decent even in hell. you can't really tear thru p8 hell, but it is possible. at p1, it's pretty much manageable.

reason not to max grizzly or go windy/summoner route?
1. you don't have enough points. without high-end gear, you'll need to max tornado + all its synergies for it to have good damage.

2. both deal same type of damage. in sp pvm play, that's risky should you come across PIs. maxing hurricane as a back-up skill should take precedence.


To the first person to show a Windy Video Clip on SP running a Complete Hell Baal Run with legit gear, I'll give 10 High Runes on West NL.

[saracen85]

To the first person to show a Windy Video Clip on SP running a Complete Hell Baal Run with legit gear, I'll give 10 High Runes on West NL.

err.. i patted my windy. i think that means i beat baal.

and i can actually link you to others who have patted (ie beat baal) with a windy in SP.

and i don't need HRs. i don't play with dupes.

and if you're implying that my gear isn't legit, well, let's see how expensive it is..

no enigma. no hoto. no soj (although i have self-found like 9 of them). ie no dupewords. i seriously think you're underestimating SP gameplay here..

[theOG22093]

Show me the clip.

[saracen85]

Show me the clip.

wow.. you actually think that non-hammerdins/smiters/sorcs can't beat the game don't you?..

windy druids aren't even one of the more challenging builds. some people even have actually beaten the game with a passivezon. in hardcore.

now, there are people who completed the game with their windies. here are their PATRIARCH threads.. again, this means that their characters have completed the game. it is the title given to softcore expansion players once they beat hell baal. this should not come as a surprise to you considering bnet and single player are the same in this situation.

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=470760
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=511537
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=627147
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=635574

imo you're the only one who's shocked to find a windy patriarch..

i've got no clips, i'm not into all those fraps hoo-ha, but as featured in my sig, i have patted my windy named angin.

here are some screenshots though.

the patriarch screen. this is shown once you killed hell baal. this pretty much says everything.
http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anginpatriarchwv7.jpg

need to to see the lcs?
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anginlcsue1.jpg

still doubt me? would you like to see what he's wearing?
Character name : AngIN
Character type : Druid
Character level : 86
Character exp : 1146544985

Strength : 136
Energy : 20
Dexterity : 32
Vitality : 332
Stat Points Rem : 0
Skill Points Rem: 0

Life : 1329 / 856
Mana : 754 / 190
Stamina : 557 / 476

Gold (Inventory): 0
Gold (Stash) : 2200000

Number of Items : 48

1: Tome of Town Portal
Quantity: 20

2: Small Charm of Vita
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 73
Fingerprint: 0x921df9b
+20 to Life

3: Lizard's Small Charm of Balance
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 29
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 55
Fingerprint: 0x54488700
+2 to Mana
5% Faster Hit Recovery

4: Small Charm of Vita
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x8ab31563
+20 to Life

5: Small Charm of Vita
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0xc1cf74b9
+20 to Life

6: Small Charm of Vita
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0xdf0f0642
+20 to Life

7: Small Charm of Vita
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x2c376786
+20 to Life

8: Small Charm of Vita
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 79
Fingerprint: 0x984de920
+20 to Life

9: Small Charm of Vita
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 64
Fingerprint: 0x5ef2d4ad
+20 to Life

10: Small Charm of Vita
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 69
Fingerprint: 0x6c498848
+20 to Life

11: Key
Quantity: 12

12: Havoc Talisman
Amulet
Required Level: 31
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x92deea36
+44 to Life
Fire Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +16%
Cold Resist +16%
Poison Resist +16%
Replenish Life +4
10% Faster Cast Rate
+2 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

13: Raven Frost
Ring
Required Level: 45
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0xa1822bf2
+19 to Dexterity
+40 to Mana
+165 to Attack Rating
Adds 15-45 cold damage over 4 seconds
20% Cold Absorb
Cannot Be Frozen

14: Arachnid Mesh
Spiderweb Sash
Defense: 127
Durability: 11 of 12
Required Strength: 50
Required Level: 80
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x6e2fd7a2
+103% Enhanced Defense
Increase Maximum Mana 5%
20% Faster Cast Rate
+1 to All Skill Levels
Slows Target by 10%
Level 3 Venom (11/11 Charges)

15: Waterwalk
Sharkskin Boots
Defense: 113
Durability: 13 of 14
Required Strength: 47
Required Level: 32
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 49
Fingerprint: 0xc6dbc991
+15 to Dexterity
+64 to Life
+40 to Maximum Stamina
+184% Enhanced Defense
Heal Stamina Plus 50%
+100 Defense vs. Missile
+5% to Maximum Fire Resist
20% Faster Run/Walk

16: AngIN's Magefist
Light Gauntlets
Defense: 25
Durability: 16 of 18
Required Strength: 45
Required Level: 23
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 88
Fingerprint: 0x9aa4ff07
+30% Enhanced Defense
Regenerate Mana 25%
+10 Defense
Adds 1-6 fire damage
20% Faster Cast Rate
+1 to Fire Skills

17: Full Rejuvenation Potion
Heals 100% Life and Mana

18: Full Rejuvenation Potion
Heals 100% Life and Mana

19: Full Rejuvenation Potion
Heals 100% Life and Mana

20: Full Rejuvenation Potion
Heals 100% Life and Mana

21: Full Rejuvenation Potion
Heals 100% Life and Mana

22: Full Rejuvenation Potion
Heals 100% Life and Mana

23: Full Rejuvenation Potion
Heals 100% Life and Mana

24: Super Healing Potion
Points: 200

25: Super Healing Potion
Points: 200

26: Super Healing Potion
Points: 200

27: Super Healing Potion
Points: 200

28: Super Mana Potion
Points: 150

29: Super Mana Potion
Points: 150

30: Super Mana Potion
Points: 150

31: Full Rejuvenation Potion
Heals 100% Life and Mana

32: Super Mana Potion
Points: 150

33: Horadric Cube

34: Natural Grand Charm of Sustenance
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 53
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0xc3419b66
+35 to Life
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

35: Natural Grand Charm
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 83
Fingerprint: 0x1387a323
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

36: Natural Grand Charm of Strength
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 88
Fingerprint: 0x8f8ccc73
+6 to Strength
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

37: Natural Grand Charm of Dexterity
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0xb383a61d
+6 to Dexterity
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

38: Natural Grand Charm of Sustenance
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x9a2a882a
+30 to Life
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

39: Natural Grand Charm of Craftmanship
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 88
Fingerprint: 0xde464eb0
+1 to Maximum Damage
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

40: Bahamut's Ring of Accuracy
Required Level: 37
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 89
Fingerprint: 0x45ef1bb1
+9 to Dexterity
+112 to Mana

41: AngIN's Jalal's Mane
Totemic Mask
Defense: 257
Durability: 20 of 20
(Druid Only)
Required Strength: 65
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x4bf465aa
+20 to Strength
+20 to Energy
+38 to Life
+160% Enhanced Defense
All Resistances +30
+2 to Druid Skill Levels
30% Faster Hit Recovery
20% Bonus to Attack Rating
+5 to Mana After Each Kill
+2 to Shape-Shifting Skills (Druid Only)
Socketed (1: 1 used)

Perfect Ruby
Inserted into a Totemic Mask

+38 to Life

Required Level: 18
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

42: AngIN's Skin of the Vipermagi
Serpentskin Armor
Defense: 279
Durability: 24 of 24
Required Strength: 43
Required Level: 29
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 75
Fingerprint: 0x4ab5ba54
+38 to Life
+120% Enhanced Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 13
All Resistances +27
30% Faster Cast Rate
+1 to All Skill Levels
Socketed (1: 1 used)

Perfect Ruby
Inserted into a Serpentskin Armor

+38 to Life

Required Level: 18
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

43: Natural Grand Charm
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 55
Fingerprint: 0xdf06a6be
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

44: Natural Grand Charm of Strength
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x65a09c33
+4 to Strength
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

45: Spirit
Crystal Sword
'TalThulOrtAmn'
One-Hand Damage: 7 to 22
Durability: 11 of 11
Required Strength: 33
Required Level: 25
Sword Class - Normal Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x937e4869
+22 to Vitality
+107 to Mana
+250 Defense vs. Missile
Adds 1-50 lightning damage
Adds 3-14 cold damage over 3 seconds
+75 poison damage over 5 seconds
7% Life stolen per hit
55% Faster Hit Recovery
34% Faster Cast Rate
+2 to All Skill Levels
+4 Magic Absorb
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired), Socketed (4: 4 used)

Tal Rune
Inserted into a Crystal Sword

+75 poison damage over 5 seconds

Required Level: 17
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Thul Rune
Inserted into a Crystal Sword

Adds 3-14 cold damage over 3 seconds

Required Level: 23
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Ort Rune
Inserted into a Crystal Sword

Adds 1-50 lightning damage

Required Level: 21
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Amn Rune
Inserted into a Crystal Sword

7% Life stolen per hit

Required Level: 25
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

46: Spirit
Monarch
'TalThulOrtAmn'
Defense: 312
Chance to Block: 42%
Durability: 43 of 44
Required Strength: 146
Required Level: 54
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 79
Fingerprint: 0x436fff14
+22 to Vitality
+102 to Mana
+250 Defense vs. Missile
Lightning Resist +35%
Cold Resist +35%
Poison Resist +35%
Attacker Takes Damage of 14
55% Faster Hit Recovery
28% Faster Cast Rate
+2 to All Skill Levels
+4 Magic Absorb
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired), Socketed (4: 4 used)

Tal Rune
Inserted into a Monarch

Poison Resist +35%

Required Level: 17
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Thul Rune
Inserted into a Monarch

Cold Resist +35%

Required Level: 23
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Ort Rune
Inserted into a Monarch

Lightning Resist +35%

Required Level: 21
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Amn Rune
Inserted into a Monarch

Attacker Takes Damage of 14

Required Level: 25
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

47: Wizardspike
Bone Knife
One-Hand Damage: 23 to 49
Required Dexterity: 75
Required Strength: 38
Required Level: 61
Dagger Class - Fast Attack Speed
Indestructible
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x8f88a93d
+20 to Life
+19 to Maximum Stamina
Regenerate Mana 15%
All Resistances +75
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
50% Faster Cast Rate
Indestructible
+172 to Mana (Based on Character Level)
Socketed (1: 1 used)

Maroon Jewel of Hope
Required Level: 37
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xfc35001
+20 to Life
+19 to Maximum Stamina

48: Spirit
Monarch
'TalThulOrtAmn'
Defense: 143
Chance to Block: 42%
Durability: 84 of 86
Required Strength: 156
Required Level: 54
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 79
Fingerprint: 0xb7a1a6b9
+22 to Vitality
+108 to Mana
+250 Defense vs. Missile
Lightning Resist +35%
Cold Resist +35%
Poison Resist +35%
Attacker Takes Damage of 14
55% Faster Hit Recovery
33% Faster Cast Rate
+2 to All Skill Levels
+7 Magic Absorb
Socketed (4: 4 used)

Tal Rune
Inserted into a Monarch

Poison Resist +35%

Required Level: 17
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Thul Rune
Inserted into a Monarch

Cold Resist +35%

Required Level: 23
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Ort Rune
Inserted into a Monarch

Lightning Resist +35%

Required Level: 21
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Amn Rune
Inserted into a Monarch

Attacker Takes Damage of 14

Required Level: 25
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Mercenary Items :

1: Treachery
Wire Fleece
'ShaelThulLem'
Defense: 1080
Durability: 17 of 17
Required Strength: 101
Required Level: 53
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x2da1ab10
Cold Resist +30%
50% Extra Gold from Monsters
+2 to Assassin Skill Levels
45% Increased Attack Speed
20% Faster Hit Recovery
25% Chance to cast Level 15 Venom on striking
5% Chance to cast Level 15 Fade when struck
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired), Socketed (3: 3 used)

Shael Rune
Inserted into a Wire Fleece

20% Faster Hit Recovery

Required Level: 29
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Thul Rune
Inserted into a Wire Fleece

Cold Resist +30%

Required Level: 23
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Lem Rune
Inserted into a Wire Fleece

50% Extra Gold from Monsters

Required Level: 43
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

2: Vampire Gaze
Grim Helm
Defense: 252
Durability: 40 of 40
Required Strength: 58
Required Level: 41
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 55
Fingerprint: 0x2de0e62c
+100% Enhanced Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 14
Damage Reduced by 16%
Adds 6-22 cold damage over 4 seconds
7% Life stolen per hit
8% Mana stolen per hit
15% Slower Stamina Drain

3: Lawbringer
Legend Sword
'AmnLemKo'
One-Hand Damage: 33 to 84
Two-Hand Damage: 75 to 141
Durability: 23 of 23
Required Dexterity: 90
Required Strength: 165
Required Level: 44
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x2b0c004a
+10 to Dexterity
+244 Defense vs. Missile
Adds 150-210 fire damage
Adds 130-180 cold damage over 6 seconds
7% Life stolen per hit
75% Extra Gold from Monsters
Slain Monsters Rest In Peace
-50% Target Defense
Level 16 Sanctuary Aura When Equipped
20% Chance to cast Level 15 Decrepify on striking
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired), Socketed (3: 3 used)

Amn Rune
Inserted into a Legend Sword

7% Life stolen per hit

Required Level: 25
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Lem Rune
Inserted into a Legend Sword

75% Extra Gold from Monsters

Required Level: 43
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion

Ko Rune
Inserted into a Legend Sword

+10 to Dexterity

Required Level: 39
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion


gearwise, i'll let you decide whether it's legit. here in SP, we do use items with fingerprints. and i'm pretty sure there isn't a runeword consisting of a HR..

but seriously, you should change the mindset that only specific types of builds can beat baal. in fact, almost any build can beat him. all it takes are patience, skill and to certain extent, gear.

ps. thank your lucky stars that i don't bother with fraps nor youtube. if not, you'll be 10 hrs poorer =P

[®@þþ3¬]

I find it very hard to believe a Windy is any good in SP unless you get items from ATMA. I would think it is darn near impossible if your play with no muling ie. purist.

EDIT: I belive you saracen. Your Windy looks nice :)

[saracen85]

@rappel
actually, rwm makes it a little easier for a windy.
spirit sword in earlier levels, stealth, lore are all pretty cheap/decent. spirit shield later on. it'll certainly be more challenging, that's for sure.