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theOG22093
04-16-2008, 02:57 AM
theOG22093's PvM BowaZon



Introduction

The BowaZon has long been feared in the PvP scene, but this guide will show you how she can also come as a force to be reckoned with in the world of PvM. A BowaZon is an Amazon that specializes in the Bow and Crossbow skill tree, with a mix of Passive and Magic skills. There are many different ways to make a BowaZon, and I feel this is the most sufficient way for what it needs to do. This is not a Glass Cannon build, so please don't post that you recommend it, thanks.





Table of Contents

Section I- Gear Selection
Section II- Stat Distribution
Section III- Skill Allocation
Section IV- IAS Breakpoints
Section V- Leveling






Section I- Gear Selection

As with all builds, the items you use are the key to how successful you are in the game. This is a very gear dependable build, and the items aren't cheap, so know what you're getting your self into.

Helmet-
Their are a few choices here, but the best in my opinion is a three socketed 40 Enchanced Damage/ 15 Increased Attack Speed Jewel Diadem. This will total up to a 120 ED and 40 IAS Helmet, which will greatly boost your damage and how fast you attack.
120 ED/45 IAS Diadem
Couldn't find a link for this, sorry.

Armor-
Many people like a 160/60 4socketed armor here, but I prefer a Fortitude Runeword made in an Archon Plate or Dusk Shroud. This armor is perfect for this build with its enchanced damage, and it even offers some resistances.
Dusk Shroud Fortitude
http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/ladder-only/items/1-10-runewords/fortitude-runeword.html

Weapon-
Ahh here's the fun part. There is a good amount of dispute on what you should use here, but I have always prefered Faith in a Grand Matron Bow over all others. This is a perfect weapon for this build with its gorgeous Fanactictism Aura, which greatly improves your IAS and Damage. Also the extra skills can't hurt.
Grand Matron Bow Faith
http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/ladder-only/items/1-10-runewords/faith-runeword.html

Gloves-
The best gloves for this build, again in my opinion, are a solid pair of crafted gloves with Increased Attack Speed and Knockback. They can be tricky to find, but try to get some with some extra useful mods, like Mana Leech.
Crafted 20 IAS/Knockback/ 3 Mana Leech Gloves
Couldn't find a link for this, sorry.

Boots-
There's also a good bit of argument on what you should go with here, but i always used Waterwalks. It's great for this build with it's Dexterity/Life Bonus.
Waterwalks
http://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/items/exceptional/boots/armor/waterwalk.html

Belt-
The belt of choice for this build is Nosferatu's. It gives a good boost to your strength, and some IAS. Even a little bit of life leech.
Nosferatu's Vampirefang Belt
http://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/items/elite/belts/armor/nosferatu-s-coil.html

Jewelry-
A. Amulet-
Cats eye amulet works really good here, considering the IAS is needed, and the dexterity can't hurt.
Cat's Eye Amultet
http://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/items/amulets/the-cat-s-eye.html

B.Rings-
ONe 20 to Dexterity Ravenfrost, and a Ml/LL/Other mods ring. The dexterity is greatly needed, and the CBF(Can't Be Frozen) Mod helps. The ML from the ring is GREATLY needed, for multi arrow
20 Dexterity Ravenfrost
6 Mana Leech/6 Life Leech/Dexterity/Life Ring
http://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/rings/items/raven-frost.html

Inventory-
In your inventory you should have the standard Hellfire Torch Large Charm/Annilus Small Charm combo, and a few resist small charms to help out with that. Many people use Poisin Damage Small Charms, but they are definetly not a necessity.
Hellfire Torch Large Charm
Annilus Small Charm
? Resistance Small Charms

On Switch-
The standard CTA and any Spirit Monarch should work here. The Plus Life and Mana that the Battle orders gives and the defense from the other War Cry really helps.
Call to Arms Flail/Crystal Sword
Spirit Monarch
http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/items/1-10-runewords/1-10-runewords/call-to-arms-runeword.html
http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/ladder-only/items/1-10-runewords/spirit-runeword.html







Section II- Stat Distribution

Strength-
Here you will only need enough to equip all of your items, taking into mind how much strength each item will give you after equipping it.

Dexterity-
This is the part that always sparks a lot of argument. This is not a glass cannon build, so you're only going to need enough here to equip all of your items.

Vitality-
This build of Bowazon does rely on a decent amount of Life, so put about 100% of your stat points(after putting enough into Dexterity/Strength to equip all of your items) into here.

Energy-
Absolutely none here, as you will have plenty after all of your items are equipped, and you don't need much anyways.





Section III- Skill Allocation

Also another very important factor of any build is the skills, because it is what makes the build. This is the Skill Allocation to use-

Bow and Crossbow

1 into Magic Arrow(Used for Physical Immunes)
1 into Ice Arrow
10 into Multiple Shot
20 into Guided Arrow( Max it last, after Passive and Magic too)
20 into Strafe


Passive and Magic

*1 into Critical Strikee:
*1 into Inner Sight
*1 into Dodge
*1 into Avoid
*1 into Slow Missles
*1 into Penetrate
*1 into Evade
*1 into Decoy
**10 into Valkyrie
*1 into Pierce

*You can achieve the above set-up at Level 72 with no skill quests. That leaves the 12 from skill quests and the 27 from 73-99 skills free. Find what fits you best for the passive and magic with *, because its mostly about preferance. I strongly suggest putting a lot into or even maxing Penetrate, and putting more into Avoid, Dodge, Evade, and Decoy.

**I put Valkyrie at 10, but anywhere from 5-15 should work fine, you decide.


Javelin and Spear

There are some hybrid builds out there, but fortunately this isn't
one of them.




Section IV- IAS Breakpoints

In order for your BowaZon to perform at its pinacle, it needs to be able to dish out arrows quickly. Attack speed is the statistic that determines how fast your arrows will be shot from your bow. Just like FHR(Faster Hit Recovery) and FCR(Faster Cast Rate), IAS has breakpoints it must reach before it will get any faster. With this build we will be hitting 7 frames, or 92 IAS. Here are those Breakpoints with a Faith GMB:

0 IAS 11Frames
6 IAS 10Frames
22IAS 09Frames
46IAS 08Frames
92IAS 07Frames






Section V- Leveling

In this section I will explain a few tactics and strategies that I've picked up over the years to help you have immediate success with your PvM BowaZon.

Classic Leveling

Normal Difficulty
1-15: Tristram Runs
15-20: Tomb Runs
20-25: Cow Runs
25-26: Ancients
26-40: Baal Runs

Nightmare Difficulty
40-41: Ancients
41-60: Baal Runs.

Hell Difficulty
60-61: Ancients
61-80: Baal Runs
80-XX: Chaos/Baal runs.( I prefer Chaos, but its really not too much of a difference.)

One of the best places to run for Exp. with your BowaZon will be the Chaos Sanctuary. It's best to try not to solo it, but have a freind with another character come run the games with you. It's great for Exp. and item drops, and not nearly as boring as Baal runs, so do all of your runs there.


Glitch Rush

Get a freind to glitch rush you to Act4 Hell.(Rush through Act1-5 Normal, and find a baal for quest game, and glitch off some one who can get the quest by being in his party when baal is killed. Repeat in Nightmare. Get rushed from Hell Act1-4.)
After you have recieved the rush to Hell Act4, begin chaos games.
1-25 is kind of slow, but after that it definetly picks up the pace.

1-60 Hell Chaos Runs.
60-61 Hell Ancients
61-80 Hell Baal Runs.
80-XX- Chaos/Baal Runs. ( I prefer Chaos, but its not really too much of a difference.)



CONCLUSION-

This is a very fun and effective build, and I recommend it to anyone who hasn't tried it yet. If you follow this guide correctly, your BowaZon will be in tip-top shape, and should have no problems in PvM, and maybe if you choose so, even a little PvP.
-Josh Young

Thanks to:
Diablo2.com for the links in the Gear Selection Section.
Some forum members for the IAS breakpoints.
And all who read it :D

Habit88
04-16-2008, 03:16 AM
don't forget about how nice crafted gloves can be. and can they get bow skills or just jav skills i forget.

Archerdoom
04-16-2008, 03:36 AM
What is the purpose of putting into Guided Arrow in strictly PvM builds?

theOG22093
04-16-2008, 06:02 AM
don't forget about how nice crafted gloves can be. and can they get bow skills or just jav skills i forget.

Yes they can have bow skills too. I think the KB/Ias are good enough, but yes there are definetly some nice crafted gloves out there.

And Guided arrow can be usefull in Pvm Also...but I would definetly max it last.

I'd like some more opinions on this please, thanks.

saracen85
04-16-2008, 07:50 AM
actually you need your gloves to be crafted to get kb mod. only other type of gloves to offer kb is cleglaws pincers.

as for 20 points in multishot, well, you're basically wasting your mana away especially with the amount of +skills that you have. knowing where to point the target with this skill, even 5 points in this skill is enough. do note that more points here won't increase damage. only arrows and mana. and arrows are capped at 24 at level 23 iirc. beyond that, you'll still fire 24 arrows but mana will still increase.

since it's pvm, PI solutions? and pvm without high level pierce?

no disrespect nor trying to discourage you or anything.. but have you read other guides on similar builds? you certainly left out lots of stuff.

dainbramage
04-16-2008, 08:52 AM
Passive skills > bow skills unless you're a frostmaiden (in which case you're definitely not a strafer).

Vouch the cap at lvl23/24 arrows.


The ias requirements for 7 frames are silly, especially as you have to sacrifice razortail and atma's (yes, I just said no to cat's eye) or fort to reach it. Hence, your damage is better off at 8/3 or 9/3.

It's pvm (but then again you're insisting on 20 dex ravens), but a blood (or hitpower) craft (or just a rare) is superior to a 2nd raven. Having 40 stats/9min/120ar/20life (nuke the life on a hp craft//add 20 life, subtract 5 stats for a rare) is better than 20stats/250ar. Thanks to the new hype with blood rings this ladder (at least on west) a bunch of very good ones are available.


You have no mana leech mentioned in the build, and nos's life leech isn't highlighted. Leech is kind've... essential... in pvm.

theOG22093
04-16-2008, 08:43 PM
@Saracen, sorry i don't know why i said Rare gloves.....lol I'll edit the gloves part.
I'll also edit the skill on multi to 10. I also recommended maxing Pierce before GA, and putting many into the passives because of the many skills you'd have left. For the PI its common knowledge to use MA(Magic Arrow), so i will edit that also.

@Dain
I prefer going 7frames with Nos belt and cats eye over your set-up.
Your suggestion on the second ring is usefull, but I use 2xRF for the extra dex so i can put more into Vitality.

No disrespect taken from either thanks for the help :D

Zander_C
04-17-2008, 12:01 AM
Well, my build(gear-wise) is similar to this guide(Im using mavina diadem, faith gmb, forti ap 15ed, 2 ravens, cats eye, nos belt, Laying of hands and War Traveller) and I can say this, for this build, you'll need a merc with Insight to help keep the mana up.

Alone without the merc, without mana leech.... well it's essential in PvM as someone has mentioned here. So now, Im crafting, hoping to get a nice dual leech ring..

Veneteaou
04-17-2008, 01:23 AM
GA auto-hits, even on act bosses. With a decently fast attack GA deals damage to bosses faster than Strafe can. It also guarantees leech with no nasty next-nelay side effects.

dainbramage
04-17-2008, 04:03 AM
GA auto-hits, even on act bosses. With a decently fast attack GA deals damage to bosses faster than Strafe can. It also guarantees leech with no nasty next-nelay side effects.

And there I was expecting "Jah'd WF > Faith."

@Dain
I prefer going 7frames with Nos belt and cats eye over your set-up.
TBH, that's called gimping your damage.

You can shoot 10 arrows in 34 frames, which have ~75% chance to pierce, or you can shoot 10 arrows in 35 frames (that's a 2.9% decrease in attack speed) against amped enemies (at least 100% increase in damage) with a 100% chance to pierce.

You also still have no mana leech.

Ringwise, did you even read what I wrote? If you're investing in vita, how is 40 stats/20 life < 20 stats/no life?

theOG22093
04-17-2008, 04:34 AM
where are you getting 40 stats from?

dainbramage
04-17-2008, 05:00 AM
25 str + 15 dex (blood)/20 str + 20 dex (hp).

theOG22093
04-17-2008, 11:03 AM
The blood looks nice, can one be found with 25/15/ll/ml?

theOG22093
04-20-2008, 09:25 PM
25 str + 15 dex (blood)/20 str + 20 dex (hp).

I tested it, and with these, which i will edit in, you have plenty enough ML, and they were what i was using.
Rings: 1x 20dex raven/ 1x 6ml/6ll/dex/life/mana ring
Gloves: 20ias/Kb/dex/3ml

Veneteaou
04-22-2008, 06:41 AM
And there I was expecting "Jah'd WF > Faith."
The thread was considering Faith builds. I felt kinda bad kicking in that even a Nef'd WF is better than Faith for PvM...

And I will second Dain's reasoning on the Atma's: It helps you deal at the very least double the damage otherwise and in Hell it is usually 3x or more that it will boost your killing speed.

theOG22093
04-22-2008, 09:00 PM
Thanks, maybe someday i will try out your wf build.

theOG22093
05-11-2008, 03:15 AM
The thread was considering Faith builds. I felt kinda bad kicking in that even a Nef'd WF is better than Faith for PvM...

And I will second Dain's reasoning on the Atma's: It helps you deal at the very least double the damage otherwise and in Hell it is usually 3x or more that it will boost your killing speed.

Bowa has long since been stripped, since I pretty much converted to strictly PKing, but does Atma's really help that much?

dainbramage
05-11-2008, 08:18 AM
does Atma's really help that much?
IT.
*DOUBLES.*
YOUR.
DAMAGE.
AT.
LEAST.

theOG22093
05-11-2008, 10:03 AM
Damn. Lol.

Veneteaou
05-13-2008, 05:48 AM
Let me do some math for ya'allz:

Suppose a monster has 0% Physical resistance, and you deal 10 damage to him.
Damage w/o Atma's - 10
Damage w/ Atma's - 20 (it drops his physical res to -100%)

Now lets try with 50%:
Damage w/o Atma's - 5
Damage w/ Atma's - 15 (tripled your killing speed)

110%:
Damage wityout - 0
Damage with - more than zero (an infinite increase)

So basically it kicks ***.

Taurean
05-13-2008, 09:10 AM
Cool!

But IAS is still better right? So you should hit the last IAS bp first...

wat3rboy1014
05-13-2008, 04:25 PM
What is the purpose of putting into Guided Arrow in strictly PvM builds?

with high ias it can be almost just as effective as strafe, and it has a very low mana cost compared to strafe or multi arrow, so if mana is a problem then it is a good thing to switch to

Kakashi Hatake
05-13-2008, 05:49 PM
with high ias it can be almost just as effective as strafe, and it has a very low mana cost compared to strafe or multi arrow, so if mana is a problem then it is a good thing to switch to

valid argument but i think that those point would be better placed in the passive tree instead of guided arrow. the mana cost may be lower than the hp of a dead char, but 1 shot from GA, or 7 shots from strafe.....add peirce to that and you have an overly effective way of killing compared to GA....this is all imo of course

Veneteaou
05-14-2008, 01:14 AM
GA is used on bosses, as it kills faster than Strafe can (Next Delay is a terrible thing).

With high IAS and decent CB/OW gear you erally don't need more than one point in GA, but I tend to max it on all my builds.

Lastly, Atma's is more important PvM than anything else for a bowie. Think about it: more than double your killing speed, or go from 8FPA to 7FPA. Use the Atma's.

dainbramage
05-14-2008, 09:13 AM
Even going from 2 frames to 1 frame will not add as much damage as the amp proc will.

jrob624
05-14-2008, 03:49 PM
What is the atma's u r talking about that doubles damage?

Khormid
05-14-2008, 05:43 PM
Nice guide!

theOG22093
05-14-2008, 08:32 PM
Nice guide!

Thanks, thinking about editing, for a 8frame build with Atma's, would like to test it for myself first.

mephiztophelez
05-14-2008, 11:08 PM
*comes into thread*

*reads*

*runs away*

(ps: wartravs > all other boots for a bow'a'zon, pvp or pvm)

Veneteaou
05-15-2008, 04:43 AM
Meph is wrong.


Travs are only good if you already have CB/OW somewhere for PvM.

theOG22093
05-15-2008, 05:09 AM
*comes into thread*

*reads*

*runs away*

(ps: wartravs > all other boots for a bow'a'zon, pvp or pvm)

Yes, they are great boots because they add damage, which is increased by ED.

mephiztophelez
05-15-2008, 05:15 AM
Travs are only good if you already have CB/OW somewhere for PvM.

and gores are only any good as a supplementary source of CB/OW, not as a primary source.:p

Veneteaou
05-15-2008, 05:52 AM
Not on a PvM strafer.

dainbramage
05-15-2008, 12:53 PM
What is the atma's u r talking about that doubles damage?

atma hax lololololololol

theOG22093
05-23-2008, 05:16 AM
Not on a PvM strafer.

Anything would work:
Travs/Gores/Treks/Waterwalks

dainbramage
05-23-2008, 09:06 AM
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theOG22093
05-24-2008, 01:18 AM
......Was all that really necessary........
10-15 strength
10-15 vitality
frw
fhr
psn resist
Sounds pretty good to me.....

2.0
05-24-2008, 01:27 AM
......Was all that really necessary........
10-15 strength
10-15 vitality
frw
fhr
psn resist
Sounds pretty good to me.....
IMPS >











lol afk.

dainbramage
05-24-2008, 02:06 AM
......Was all that really necessary........

Yeah, it was.


What treks do, waterwalks or rares do far better.

theOG22093
05-24-2008, 03:08 AM
Ya that's why I said you should use WW's in my guide...

Raine
05-24-2008, 03:34 AM
dain bramage can you edit your long post? It is annoying =/

theOG22093
05-24-2008, 05:37 PM
Quit spamming my guide please....

dainbramage
05-25-2008, 03:54 AM
It's punishment for suggesting treks on a bowie.

theOG22093
05-25-2008, 06:21 AM
Again:
......Was all that really necessary........
10-15 strength
10-15 vitality
frw
fhr
psn resist
Sounds pretty good to me.....

Now please, quit the spam.
And, again, I suggested waterwalks.

AmazingSpork
05-25-2008, 07:31 AM
Ehhh it's kind of.. lacking. Just a basic overview of what EVERY bowazon uses. Add in an Enigma if it's going to be a PvM and add some fcr gear. If it's PvM then you don't need as much dmg as pvp. That or provide some places that are good for PvM'ing with this char w/o tele.

It's a good basic guide but it needs something to set it apart from every other bowazon guide out there. (The enigma was just a random suggestion and in no way am I telling you your build is wrong or enigma is better)

7th Army V-Iota
05-25-2008, 08:07 AM
Wow, give him a break, to each his own, ya know? Its basically trying out new things. If this build works for him, cool.

AmazingSpork
05-25-2008, 02:29 PM
Wow, give him a break, to each his own, ya know? Its basically trying out new things. If this build works for him, cool.

I wasn't complaining about the build, I was commenting about the fact that 90% of bowazon guides outline this zon minus 1 or 2 items. If this is meant to be a guide (which I assume it is) then it needs to stand out in some way or be more specific. That is why I suggested what I did.

L2Accept constructive criticism. :p

theOG22093
05-25-2008, 06:04 PM
Ehhh it's kind of.. lacking. Just a basic overview of what EVERY bowazon uses. Add in an Enigma if it's going to be a PvM and add some fcr gear. If it's PvM then you don't need as much dmg as pvp. That or provide some places that are good for PvM'ing with this char w/o tele.

It's a good basic guide but it needs something to set it apart from every other bowazon guide out there. (The enigma was just a random suggestion and in no way am I telling you your build is wrong or enigma is better)

LOL, please do let me know how that works out for you. I really don't see all that many Bowazons in the PvM scene anyways, so not really all that sure what they use. I've heard of someone on this site using Windforce and Andy's helm, and having great success with it.
*Edited, I think it was 7th Army V-Iota.
*Edited, When the forum is finished updating,(if it ever is), then I will revise this, and all of my guides.

Veneteaou
05-26-2008, 02:49 AM
Windforce
Guillaume's (IAS'd)
Atma'a ammy
Gores
Nos Coil
Rattlecage
Cleglaw's Pincers

mephiztophelez
05-26-2008, 03:04 AM
......Was all that really necessary........
10-15 strength
10-15 vitality
frw
fhr
psn resist
Sounds pretty good to me.....

junk. complete junk. utter junk. the kind of junk people who don't know any better look at and go:
"zomg, boots wiv str ez choice, str is gozu"

treks are pure unadulterated junk. they are even junk'ier on a pvm bowazon who should be using wartravs (or maybe gores).

on a pvp bowy, TRAVS!!!!

treks are bleagh.

Add in an Enigma if it's going to be a PvM and add some fcr gear. If it's PvM then you don't need as much dmg as pvp. That or provide some places that are good for PvM'ing with this char w/o tele.

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA enigma on a bowy. your funny.

seriously, what a stupid idea.

Windforce
Guillaume's (IAS'd)
Atma'a ammy
Gores
Nos Coil
Rattlecage
Cleglaw's Pincers

now THATS a pvm bowy gearset for pure pvm ownage.

pity it's at 9fpa.

theOG22093
05-26-2008, 06:02 AM
junk. complete junk. utter junk. the kind of junk people who don't know any better look at and go:
"zomg, boots wiv str ez choice, str is gozu"

treks are pure unadulterated junk. they are even junk'ier on a pvm bowazon who should be using wartravs (or maybe gores).

on a pvp bowy, TRAVS!!!!

treks are bleagh.



BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA enigma on a bowy. your funny.

seriously, what a stupid idea.



now THATS a pvm bowy gearset for pure pvm ownage.

pity it's at 9fpa.

You seriously underestimate treks. Sure, there are much better rare boots out there, but treks are a very viable option. And, AGAIN, I did not say to use treks, I said to use Water Walks. Now please, enough with the argument about treks. If you want to get in-detail with it, make a thread or something, I don't care, just quit spamming my guide.

mephiztophelez
05-26-2008, 06:31 AM
You seriously underestimate treks. Sure, there are much better rare boots out there, but treks are a very viable option.
i'm not "underestimating" treks, i'm making an informed judgement about them.

they blow.

And, AGAIN, I did not say to use treks, I said to use Water Walks.
travs > waterwalks. end of story. quit trying to argue any different.

anyway, SOMEONE suggested treks on a bowy.

I don't care, just quit spamming my guide.
this isn't spam.

i could show you spam if you like.

theOG22093
05-26-2008, 09:14 AM
Again that's your opinion, and if you feel up to spamming, go for it. Just don't do it here.

®@þþ3¬
05-26-2008, 10:36 AM
I finally found this thread Ive heard so much about! Its all over the Internet!!

He said Treks!11

*Lawl*

theOG22093
05-26-2008, 12:34 PM
OMFG.....just please do continue spamming. Too bad the admins are dead here. STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7th Army V-Iota
05-26-2008, 10:19 PM
LOL, please do let me know how that works out for you. I really don't see all that many Bowazons in the PvM scene anyways, so not really all that sure what they use. I've heard of someone on this site using Windforce and Andy's helm, and having great success with it.
*Edited, I think it was 7th Army V-Iota.
*Edited, When the forum is finished updating,(if it ever is), then I will revise this, and all of my guides.

Yes i make pvm bowzons, and so far my build works fine with the items i use. Personally, OG, dont let these guys sweat you, i think overall they forgot this is a game, not politics... we can leave that to idiots...

theOG22093
05-27-2008, 12:07 AM
Yea, I seen thee screen-shot of your build, looked pretty good.

guidtester58
05-27-2008, 12:29 AM
this is good guild if you follow right i tested and my guy kicks hell baals *** and it works on pvp if you vs a hammerdin

ps. i killed lvl 93 hammerdin and the guy i test with is 80

theOG22093
05-27-2008, 01:40 AM
this is good guild if you follow right i tested and my guy kicks hell baals *** and it works on pvp if you vs a hammerdin

ps. i killed lvl 93 hammerdin and the guy i test with is 80

Vouch this is a good build. Mostly for PvM though.

Veneteaou
05-27-2008, 09:34 PM
What is sad but funny is that, at 9FPS, my build is still gonna roll most of the other suggested PvM builds.


But if you wanna swap a Treachery/IAS Gloves/etc. in whatever.

theOG22093
05-28-2008, 03:41 AM
What is sad but funny is that, at 9FPS, my build is still gonna roll most of the other suggested PvM builds.


But if you wanna swap a Treachery/IAS Gloves/etc. in whatever.

What is up with this rando post? I don't care about your PK build, quit the spam.
Treachery is considered bm btw......

mephiztophelez
05-28-2008, 04:19 AM
Treachery is considered bm btw......

huh? where do you get this idea from?

theOG22093
05-28-2008, 04:21 AM
huh? where do you get this idea from?

If you use it for pre-buff it's BM, but if you use it as part of your complete set-up it's not.

2.0
05-28-2008, 04:22 AM
He's not talking about Pvp.

theOG22093
05-28-2008, 04:24 AM
He's not talking about Pvp.

Oh hell, just noticed he said PvM.

Veneteaou
05-28-2008, 06:25 AM
Sorry, I meant to post that in the PvM Faithzon thread.

Oh wait...

theOG22093
06-24-2008, 09:00 AM
Sorry, I meant to post that in the PvM Faithzon thread.

Oh wait...

This is a guide to a faithzon.

Minismiter
06-06-2009, 11:49 AM
Well, my build(gear-wise) is similar to this guide(Im using mavina diadem, faith gmb, forti ap 15ed, 2 ravens, cats eye, nos belt, Laying of hands and War Traveller) and I can say this, for this build, you'll need a merc with Insight to help keep the mana up.

Alone without the merc, without mana leech.... well it's essential in PvM as someone has mentioned here. So now, Im crafting, hoping to get a nice dual leech ring..

You could use a circlet with 2 Ama skill, 120 AR, 8 life / 8 mana leech and resistances like i do. Dont even have to worry about leech (: eheh

vtc17
06-14-2009, 03:43 PM
would putting some extra points in magic arrow be worth it since in hell you have to deal with lots of stone skin?

jrob624
06-15-2009, 02:23 PM
extra points in magic arrow would do well against the PI monstes in hell ... and could help with stone skin but dont go overboard ...

Veneteaou
06-21-2009, 05:22 AM
Extra points in MA are a waste for two reasons:

- Plus skills should get it high enough
- You should be using Atma's Ammy, which solves the immunes problem.

Use the amulet already.

Parts Unknown
07-25-2009, 07:15 PM
what do you think about 2 os giant skull with 2 40/15 jewels in it?

SorcsOnAPlane
09-02-2009, 05:02 PM
Nice guide

I'll have to get an atmas based on the replies, problem is I dont want to get vid of my maras XD. Using Full M'avina's on switch with Faith bow(mav bow is good vs immunes).

My advice would be drop Multiple arrow to 1-5 pts and max Valk... I find myself not even getting my merc anymore as my valk can tank anything in Hell mode 20 times better then my act 2 merc.
@ vtc17
I wouldnt put many points into magic arrow, one is just fine. If you are having problems look for a bow that adds a lot of ele dmg to just use on switch like a hell cast.

SexdUp
09-05-2009, 12:30 AM
Omni please close this.

This is soooo old. 37k views, roflmao.