Lawbringer and Oath Runeword in what weapons?

[Brodholm]

I'm sitting here wondering what i should put these runewords in.

Its a frenzy barb thats using max dmg. But i have not decided what type of weapon im going to use sword/axe. Right now im thinking swords.

something like this:
20 Frenzy
20 Battle Orders
20 Weapon Mastery (Sword/Axe?!?)
20 Taunt
20 Double Swing

Im thinking Lawbringer in a Legend sword, and Oath in eth Balrog blade.

I'm not so sure about the items, maybe i should go with axes i don't know. I have a 3 socked legend sword rdy to go and searching for a eth balrog blade.

And i have another question to, regarding stats on a barb. How much should i pick? most say enough to wear gear but how much is that? I don't rly know all the final gear and stuff like that. And dex is just enough to wear the blades/axes right?

The things i have now is:
Helm: Arreats Face
Gloves: Draculs
Amulet: Highlords
Rings: Ravenfrost x2? or bukatos

and I'm going to get Goreriders and Verdungos i think. Its just a matter of time.

Armor is going to be stone right now but maybe fortitude later if i get the Lo rune.

What armor is recomended to make the runewords? Sacred armor is a bit to high i think 232 or what is it? but maybe its worth it i dont know. Im going to need some str for balrog blade and legend sword ~180 i think. Right now i have 105 in str.

This got a bit messy but ill hope you will understand it :D

Regards Brodholm

[BeaverusIV]

First of all, wrong forum.

Secondly, swords are nice, if you have them, use them. Axes have lower reqs, but swords are way cooler.

Always use archon plates, ALWAYS. Low reqs, high def, 'nuff said.

Stone is good armour.

[saracen85]

lawbringer/oath combo works very well. if you go that route, you'll have to settle for swords since you can't make a lawbringer in an axe.

as to which type, oath in an eth bb is a good choice. decent speed and requirements. but others like eth champion sword/highland blades are still good choices.

as for lawbringer (which i'll assume be in off-hand), it's best you choose the fastest base speed. thus, a legend sword (-15 base speed) is a great choice. champion sword (-10 base speed) isn't that bad a choice either.

if you're using lawbringer/oath combo, do note that the curse ctcs will conflict with dracul's grasp's lifetap. so, you have to choose which ctc you want. alternatively, you can wear laying of hands which provides 20ias + 350ed to demons. or any blood crafts with cb.

as to armor, choose the highest defense that you can find within your strength means. archon plates may have the best defense/requirements ratio plus the luxury of being a light armor, but any other heavier types that have higher defense can also be considered since increase stamina easily offsets the weight penalty.

and ravenfrost trumps bk ring by a mile.. bk ring is just a poor melee ring since you benefit so little from +1skills, lifeleech is low as compared to rares and the life is not even boosted by bo. having a ravenfrost to ease your dex requirements would mean lots more bo-able life, plus having a healthier chance to hit. otherwise, a good rare ring with life/mana leech, stats, resists, life etc should be just as good.

[kwittstruck]

Great info above however nothing said about how much for gear, What i do is i reserve 25 stat points all the way threw the game, untill i reach higher levels, and even then save a little bit just in case. After you get your initial starting gear put on, save up to 25 pts and drop anything you have over that 25 into your vitality. That way if an armor or weapon comes your way that would need more str or dex, you have 25 pts to pull from without having to level. Then simply "restock" your stat points to 25 and start droping into vitality again. Generally though str shouldnt need to go much passed 100 in end game with proper gear that has + to str and same for dex (though dex is useful to land your hits)

[Brodholm]

ahh thanks, sry about the wrong section of the forum. Then I'm not going to pick more str then.

right now i have ~210 unpicked stats on my barb (lvl 55). So thats not going to be a problem. I usually save like 50 points so I'm sure. But this time i have saved much! :D

I have checked all the str bonuses from the items and i saw that i will not hit the 175 str req with my gear. I will only get 141 without dracul's. Then i have to pick some more i think. Or is there something else that gives +str? i know that annihilus and hellfire gives like 20 each but there will be a while befor we can install the plugY mode and do them. Should i just pick some more str or what?

Im going lawbringer in the "right" weapon slot (the characters left arm) and then a Oath in the other hand. Lawbringer in Legend sword and Oath in eth balrog blade.

And thanks again!

Edit: the "if you're using lawbringer/oath combo, do note that the curse ctcs will conflict with dracul's grasp's lifetap. so, you have to choose which ctc you want. alternatively, you can wear laying of hands which provides 20ias + 350ed to demons. or any blood crafts with cb."

I don't rly undestand. What is ctcs? lifetap is the curse on the gloves but ctcs? chance to cast spirit?
But the lifetap is uber from what i have heard, is it worth to trow that away? and the lifesteal?

Is there any better chose to avoid these problems?

[BeaverusIV]

He means when Lawbringer, the ctc Decrepify will override the Lifetap Dracs cast. So it renders dracs useless...

[Brodholm]

kk, But what should i do about the str req?

Do the runes in eth cryptic sword and phase blade. But then again, i need to pick more dex for phase blade (136). Thats 36 points to dex compared to legend swords 100 dex req. But then you need 175 to str. And i have picked 105 to str and going to get +16 str from stone and 10-15 from draculs (mine 12 but 10 lifesteal) 20 str from Areats face. And thats a total of 153 str. I need to pick 22 to str to hit the 175 req. 36-22 = 14 (dex-str).

Thats 14 more points to vitality. And they hit harder but are slower. I'm going to need a 15 ias jewel in areats face to get the 5 attacks per sec with legend sword. But 4,5 attacks per sec aren't that bad either.

I'm having a bit of problems with res on my barb to. Any suggestions?

[saracen85]

this is pvm right? by right, this shouldn't concern you much.
of course more vita would mean more life, but more strength actually equates to more damage as well..

imo, be less strict in your stats distribution for pvm.. more strength means more flexibility in your gear anyway. as long you don't put lots of points in dex or energy that's beyond repair, you should do well..

[BeaverusIV]

Arreats + Stone + Natural res = enough. imo pvm = high light res, who cares bout the rest.

Especially w/ life tap going off, it should counteract less than perfect resistances.

[saracen85]

@OP
imo you still need to choose between lawbringer and dracs.. the ctc decrep has bigger chance and range, so most likely lifetap wouldn't last long..

unless you're forgoing lifetap and stick to the gloves' other bonuses, change them =)

[FIN_God]

Or then u can do kingslayer its only abit expensive (Gul can be from hell hf)

Runeword Name: Kingslayer

Allowed Items: 4 Socket
Swords/Axes
Runes: Mal + Um + Gul + Fal
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+230-270% Enhanced Damage (varies)
-25% Target Defense
20% Bonus To Attack Rating
33% Chance of Crushing Blow
50% Chance of Open Wounds
+1 To Vengeance
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 To Strength
40% Extra Gold From Monsters

+ Good mods like AR CB and OW

[Brodholm]

Is there any other weapon i could use instead of lawbringer? I don't have so high runes. Everything up to mal can i fix (countess). I rly like draculs with its 10 lifesteal and lifetap. What other options do i have?

Oath is a great pvm so im not going to change that.

But maybe change lawbringer or dracul's.

What other options do i have in the gloves section? Laying hands something more?

And another option to lawbringer? It cant be very expensive, have some ums and almost every rune below that.

Edit: Kingslayer could be it! But whats the best way to find a gul? hellforge but thats only if you are lucky! but yeah conutess can drop ist from time to time. But then i need a mal and 2 ist to make that. Maybe i can make that later and just make lawbringer now and then change to kingslayer. And yeah the CB is nice as hell.

[BeaverusIV]

I like the ctc static one.... I'll look it up...

Here:
Crescent Moon
3 Socket Axes/Swords/Polearms
Shael + Um + Tir

10% Chance To Cast Level 17 Chain Lightning On Striking
7% Chance To Cast Level 13 Static Field On Striking
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+180-220% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
-35% To Enemy Lightning Resistance
25% Chance of Open Wounds
+9-11 Magic Absorb (varies)
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
Level 18 Summon Spirit Wolf (30 Charges)

[Brodholm]

ohh damn! crescent moon is sweet! :D And with that in a legend sword i should hit the 5 attacks per sec.

It could be perfect until i get a gul.

Should i make that in a legend sword or balrog?

And btw where is the best place to find a eth balrog blade or eth champion sword to make oath in.

[saracen85]

iirc, from your off-hand weapon, only base weapon speed counts towards your frenzy speed. so, always choose one that's fast.

as for where to find, pits would be ok, with no mf on.

btw, if you opt for crescent moon as your secondary, you can choose to use dual axes.. =)

[jrob624]

You always have the option to use grief runeword ... if you can download the mods to use ladder runewords highest rune is mal i believe. That weapon does some incredible damage and has the ias up to 40%. you can make in sword or axe also.

[saracen85]

grief's highest rune is a LO =P

[jrob624]

sorry, thanks for correction Saracen. was just going off memory.

[Brodholm]

Yeah i have looked at grief but as said LO :D

If i find a LO I think I'm going to do a Fortitude in a armor with the 300 enchanted +dmg.

Now I'm confused again axe or sword, sword or axe :D

But ill think I'm going to use sword because they have more range and swords are cool on barbarians ;D

But if you compare axes vs swords what are the difference? range and?

Edit: I have now made a cresent moon in a legend blade and oath in a 4 socket eth Highland blade. And i socked areats face with a 15ias jewel to get hit the 5 attacks per sec.

But i have a question about stone. i have seen stones socked in archon plates and it gets 2k defense and they are NOT eth. How is that possible? And does the original defense on the archon plate matter? or any other item. Im thinking of doing stone in a sacred armor because he looks so cool in it. He looks silly in a archon plate...