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kenji51590
03-31-2008, 01:26 AM
There is the obvious Btorch (20-xx) and the Anni (20-xx), but now you have 37 single spaces left. Considering that 3/20/20 is to expensive for most people, I was wondering if a combo of Life, Res, and Fhr would be the best route, or having tons of 100 psn sc's with Fhr and Res sc's if needed? If there are other better combos, please comment ty :]

Sorry, forgot to mention the type of barb build is PvP WW barbs

2.0
03-31-2008, 01:56 AM
Basically you want Life/resist charms, unless you are making a BvB in which case you want life/ar.

And, enough Fhr charms to make up for what your gear doesn't give.

kenji51590
03-31-2008, 02:04 AM
So psn scs are basically useless?

2.0
03-31-2008, 02:06 AM
So psn scs are basically useless?
In my opinion, yes.

Some people seem to like them though.

kenji51590
03-31-2008, 02:12 AM
I see, ty for the input ;]

Omnicide
04-21-2008, 07:54 AM
I'm not so sure if FHR is a HUGE requirement for a lot of barbs. Most are decent with 48 (off the top of my head) or so.

BvBs use either life/ar...Warcries...or Masteries.

BvCs...res and life, mostly...with some warcries at times.

®@þþ3¬
04-21-2008, 09:44 AM
OT

I would prefere a 10/76/45 gc over 3 x 3/20/20 scs. 1 max dmg and 16 ar, but 15 life less. A matter of preference :)

/OT

N V
04-21-2008, 10:05 AM
Remember that life is BO'able, so 15 life would be around 30-40ish? And with 10 gcs instead of scs, thats 150 life which would be around 300-400 life? So 10 more damage and 160 ar vs at least 300 life. I would go with the life ;)

®@þþ3¬
04-21-2008, 10:10 AM
As I said. A matter of preferences :)

I do feel I should mention that many barb skills have in increase in ar% and dmg% so dmg/ar would go up just as life goes up with BO :)

It does, however, depend on the build/items

N V
04-21-2008, 11:21 AM
For pvp in almost 99% you go with as much life as humanly (gaminbly?!) possible :p

But it is ofc a matter of preferences as you say :)

mephiztophelez
04-21-2008, 01:33 PM
So psn scs are basically useless?
bingo.

I'm not so sure if FHR is a HUGE requirement for a lot of barbs. Most are decent with 48 (off the top of my head) or so.

BvBs use either life/ar...Warcries...or Masteries.

BvCs...res and life, mostly...with some warcries at times.
bvb's like max/ar/lifers as much as the next melee guy. but ar/lifers and mastery/lifers can have a place.

Kakashi Hatake
04-21-2008, 01:52 PM
if you are gonna go the route of psn sc's id go for 451 psn dmg instead of 100 psn dmg...or in the least 256 psn dmg

Omnicide
04-21-2008, 06:32 PM
The max mod never interested me much to make it a necessary addition. 37x3=111 damage...about the area of 300-400 or so after the skill bonuses and FAR less than 111 after all the penalties.

Most BvBs focus on life, AR, defense and, to a degree, damage.

3/20/20s are the basic WW barb charm...mostly because they're so duped everyone can get a hold of them. The GC versions don't strike me as much...but if you want more AR for the cost of lower life and still keep the max mod, I guess that's your only choice.

Steel charms of vita offer TONS more AR than a 3/20/20 at the cost of no max mod. Since hitting is more important to me than doing top notch damage...I'm known to have these around on some barbs.

WC lifers...More life and more defense. I guess if you're a defensive BvB it's ok...but I'm not all that fond of WC charms in the inventory.

Combat GCs...I'll never get why people use these unless it's to level up multiple skills they don't have enough points for. The more I hear they're used for more damage, the more I want to stab someone in the face with a spoon.

Mastery lifers...Surprisingly least faved out of the barb skillers. I'll never get why. No other charm can raise AR/damage/CS/res/FRW/stamina/def at the same time. These are the charms I'd use on my BvB, and I can get my BvB (at least the prototype on SP) to about 50k def or so...no chilling armor prebuff.

Anyway...as much as 3/20/20s are hailed as the ultimate melee charms...it's just not true. Damage can't be king if your opponent hits you more.

Kosum
04-21-2008, 08:46 PM
can u help me get some of that stuff.

Omnicide
04-21-2008, 08:51 PM
Check out the level to get those mods on the charm, then compare that to what level monsters are to drop a charm with that mod. Find the charm...reroll until desired results.

cmlogu01
05-16-2008, 11:18 PM
I say any inventory goes as long as you have some form of full plate, whether its normal, exceptional, or elite. just because it shows off the full suit of black armor on a barb.:D

aznmatt001
05-16-2008, 11:48 PM
actually, psn scs r VERY useful in pvp...use 451psn scs. use like 9x warcry gcs. and the rest either life-res scs and/or 451 psn scs =)

Omnicide
05-17-2008, 03:23 AM
PLENTY wrong with that statement.

Ten 451 poison GCs would yield crap damage after resistances in PvP...except for maybe an ES sorc that has low poison res, but I doubt it if they have treks.

If you seriously think poison charms play a big role in winning PvP games as a barb...there's something wrong with your barb.