can someone help with my barb?

[Valanceer]

ok ive heard from people that X2 ebotd are the best. Ive also heard that grief and ebotd are best.(im a ww barb)So which one to i choose?.Also what rings do i use i know sojs but i need attack rating so should i go with 2 perf. frost ravens or what idk but plz help me.

[theOG22093]

You can also use a sheild-Stormsheild. But that's if you want max block. If you do use it i used to use a ebot'd/ss set-up.

[wat3rboy1014]

i love telling people what barb weapons to use cause i personally think i have the best solution...first off to cure the attack rating problem you might wanna try using swords (they hit more often rather than harder), or if ur using axes just imporove your axe mastery, they raise your attack rating and you can also get your dext a lil higher...

for the weapons: ebotd and last wish
last wish has crushing blow, fade, and life tap, not to mention a lil might aura equipped

you can also get an act 1 merc and equip her with faith so that you have a lvl 13 fant aura going as well

all this = high damage and attack rating

email me or post back if you have any questions

[saracen85]

i love telling people what barb weapons to use cause i personally think i have the best solution...first off to cure the attack rating problem you might wanna try using swords (they hit more often rather than harder), or if ur using axes just imporove your axe mastery, they raise your attack rating and you can also get your dext a lil higher...

for the weapons: ebotd and last wish
last wish has crushing blow, fade, and life tap, not to mention a lil might aura equipped

you can also get an act 1 merc and equip her with faith so that you have a lvl 13 fant aura going as well

all this = high damage and attack rating

email me or post back if you have any questions

hmm... let's break this down..

1. about swords vs axes. this is mainly preference. no such thing as swords will make you hit better. they have higher dex requirements than axes, so it's a trade-off with life.

2. last wish on a ww barb? waste + useless. ctcs won't work with ww. and slow to reach fastest bp.

3. act1 merc is good. but act2 mercs are better. potentially they can get higher level might than last wish. plus, you can equip him with another aura-granting weapon.

[safetypro]

I have to agree with Saracen and theOG on this one.
My personal preference is eBOTDz with Stormshield. I've heard that BOTD works good in combination with eDEATH or Beast however, you really don't need dual weapons for this build. If you are PvP, the max block will be essential however even in PvM you will be happy you chose to go that route.

Act 2 Nightmare Offensive Merc for the Might Aura. Fanatism won't give you the added benifit that Might will because with WW and greater than 34% IAS (IIRC), you'll be already hitting a 4 frame attack.

I expect Omni will be chiming in soon on this question. He's the resident expert on all things Barbarian. I'm sure he will offer you much better advice than I ever could.

[Omnicide]

ok ive heard from people that X2 ebotd are the best. Ive also heard that grief and ebotd are best.(im a ww barb)So which one to i choose?.Also what rings do i use i know sojs but i need attack rating so should i go with 2 perf. frost ravens or what idk but plz help me.Heh...it depends what you want out of your barb. Grief/Grief are a hard hitting combo as is Grief/BotD. But usually combining two damaging weapons isn't what you want for your second weapon choice. This is why people use Beast a lot of the time, since it compliments the main weapon with Fanaticism's damage to pump up the main weapon, AR to better ensure the hits and OW to help cause even more problems for your enemy. Highlord's and 2xRavens are only to be used with low defense builds. You can't really get the AR you need to hit with melee builds with higher defense. Angelic ammy and two rings is the best combination, to me. Easily hit 17-19k AR...a good place to be for any common WWer.

i love telling people what barb weapons to use cause i personally think i have the best solutionI love proving people wrong that think they're God's gift to D2. Hi.

...first off to cure the attack rating problem you might wanna try using swords (they hit more often rather than harder)LIES! Swords have no benefit of hitting more than axes at all. The only thing that determines how often you can hit is your AR and level compared to your enemy's defense and level

or if ur using axes just imporove your axe mastery, they raise your attack rating and you can also get your dext a lil higher...You should be maxing your main weapon mastery ANYWAY. And raising your dex isn't a recommended way to get your AR up unless you're going the specialized dexabarb route.

Saracen covered what I had a problem with in your suggestion so I'll leave it to him. I'll just add onto the fact that LW doesn't have ANY IAS...making WW slower to hit than two 34% IAS berserker axes (max IAS for two zerkers, by the way). This is why I consider Death better if you're going to lower your IAS. Death at least provides a healthy amount of DS to compliment its low speed. Even then...I wouldn't recommend Death for a fast WW.



I have to agree with Saracen and theOG on this one.
My personal preference is eBOTDz with Stormshield.For SS barbs I actually have a sort of process. If you find your life is too low using Grief with SS (from putting into str/dex) then go BotD to help out with that. Damage is important...but if you can't take a hit...it's not worth it.

I've heard that BOTD works good in combination with eDEATH or Beast however, you really don't need dual weapons for this build. If you are PvP, the max block will be essential however even in PvM you will be happy you chose to go that route.BotD is a good all around weapon, really. It can be the main weapon with Beast as a side arm, it can be a good sidearm for slower weapons like Death, even though it cuts your IAS in half with 6.25 fpa compared to 12.5 with a full IAS. It's just...good. Still...Grief is the premier one handed barb weapon as far as damage and IAS goes. BotD comes in a very close second in my book. And as far as having a shield or not in PvP. You really only need the shield vs other melee, which are becoming far and few in today's dueling. Casters/smiters are ruling the scene right now. Your only exception would be BvCs...and having a shield would just ensure your victory. Or...it should.

I expect Omni will be chiming in soon on this question. He's the resident expert on all things Barbarian. I'm sure he will offer you much better advice than I ever could.*cough* Hai.

[theOG22093]

Oh ya by the way, please never use SoJs on a WW barb.

[Kakashi Hatake]

i love telling people what barb weapons to use cause i personally think i have the best solution...first off to cure the attack rating problem you might wanna try using swords (they hit more often rather than harder), or if ur using axes just imporove your axe mastery, they raise your attack rating and you can also get your dext a lil higher...

for the weapons: ebotd and last wish
last wish has crushing blow, fade, and life tap, not to mention a lil might aura equipped

you can also get an act 1 merc and equip her with faith so that you have a lvl 13 fant aura going as well

all this = high damage and attack rating

email me or post back if you have any questions

im going to have to disagree with you alot here.

i always go grief-beast. they both give great dmg plus the auras stack. and if you really want to make your dmg juicy, get a offensive nm merc from act 2 and give him pride runeword for that awsome concentration runeword. you end with 3 AR/dmg increasing auras (might,fanat,concentration) so you end with fast atk speed and butt loads of dmg

[saracen85]

@kakashi
do note that only weapon ias matters in ww attack speed. last wish has none. having 1000ias on your gear or level 40 fanaticism won't change the fact that you will never reach fastest ww bp.

over time, at fastest attack speed, you will most probably do higher damage than a last wish ww setup.

[Omnicide]

Agreed. That's the lesson I learned when I used Death/Beast. I thought the Fanaticism would keep the IAS on my Death up...that wasn't the case. Most of the hit checks were made on my Beast instead, since it was fast enough to get them all.

[dainbramage]

i love telling people absolute bollocks
I love telling people who have no idea what they're talking about that they have no idea what they're talking about.


You sir, have no idea what you're talking about. See saracen's and omni's posts for why. Last wish is about as smart as the infamous honour naga used on a level 30 ww' barb...

[wat3rboy1014]

ok my bad...the whole reason i said all that was because my preference is swords...idk why i just dont like axes...and the only way to get fant and might aura stacking was the LW/EBotd with act 1 faith merc...should i just cut out the whole might aura thing and switch to death? since i couldn't do the beast/ebotd act 2 might merc combo since beast isn't available on swords?

[Kakashi Hatake]

@saracen
good to know....lol although i thought this was just a gear selection uestion, i didnt know it was ww but thanks for then info b/c im not to good with the technical mumbo jumbo and i didnt know that about ww. my other post was just my favorite selection for a high dmg melee character

[Omnicide]

ok my bad...the whole reason i said all that was because my preference is swords...idk why i just dont like axes...and the only way to get fant and might aura stacking was the LW/EBotd with act 1 faith merc...should i just cut out the whole might aura thing and switch to death? since i couldn't do the beast/ebotd act 2 might merc combo since beast isn't available on swords?Death and LW, both, are slow as hell weapons. Neither of them is a stellar choice for WW.

[saracen85]

for swords, the choice is quite limited if you intend to go fastest bp..

on top of my head, the most damaging ones are grief, eoath and ebotd.. cool rares if you're lucky to find one.. =)

axes provide more options. apart from the above, you can add beast or doom into the mix. not to mention the possibility of using good uniques such as death cleaver as well.

[Omnicide]

I remember when I was a stickler for swords. But axes provide too many options to ignore. >_>

[dainbramage]

...And axes are just plain imba even without the extra variety of runewords available. All elite axes (except the tomahawk T_T and war spike) deal 2-3 more damage than every other weapon of the same speed, and have far better requirements than swords.


Consider the zerker.

Most damage for a 1h [0] weapon, on par with [10] weapons.
Most damage for a 1h range 3 weapon unless you're a barb, in which case a cs beats it by 0.5 average damage in exchange for [10] and heinous reqs.
Most damage for a 1h 6-socket weapon.
Lower requirements than comparable weapons; balrog blade, colossus blade, scourge.