7th Army V-iota's Glass Amazon

[7th Army V-Iota]

Well, i thought i post mine since a few wonder what i use. Im not gonna say its the best build around but it works for me... if you know how to use her... This is strictly PvM only! Comments like "she cant pvp" will most likely end in "Durrrr" So observe the obvious...

Stats:
STR - None
DEX - ALL
VIT - None
ENE - None

Skills:
Strafe
Guided Arrow*
Valkyrie
Decoy
Penetration

These are all maxed skills.

*This skill is maxed @ lvl99

Equipment:
Helm : Andy with 40/15
Armor : AP Fortitude
Weapon : Windforce with 40/15
Gloves : Dracs
Belt : Nosferatu's Coil
Boots : War Travs
Rings : Dual Ravens with 200+ ATR, 20 dex
Ammy : Cats Eye

Misc:
20xx torch
20xx anni
Lotta lifer/damage scs

This is pretty simplistic. I really dont go into why i use these items. Careful planning is all it took. Yes it took several builds to make the one zon i wanted and this is the end result. However, i am looking into remakin it again. I began using Multiple Arrow skill on another zon i recently made. My conclusion was that, damn this is pretty nifty lol.

Strafe : Crowd control - Seconary attack from all sides.
Multiple : Assault - Primary attack from straight forward/large groupings
Magic Arrow : Physical Immune Killer - Secondary skill
Guided Arrow : Best left for PvP

So if any comments, critque it... cause it works for me...

Precentor Martial,
Victor Steiner-Davion
Commanding General, SLDF

[N V]

Just 1 question, since this is strictly pvm, wouldn't razor tail outdamage a nosferatus in any way imaginable because you can get 100% pierce with it?

I'm by no means an ama expert, but the belt choice doesn't make sense to me unless the 10 ias let you hit a better breakpoint. Those 15 points for streanght won't ruin the build either so... >.<

[kwittstruck]

For his build he uses the str mods to enable him to place every point into dex
After dex reaches 200 the bowama gets a % of enhanced damage, 1 ed for every single point in dex. Makes a high power bowama. So in this case, the strength would be a needed thing.

[Veneteaou]

The amazon will get 1% Enhanced Damage per point of Dex, regardless of how much she already has.

There are only a few things I Would change on this zon, as follows:

- I would use Atma's Amulet instead of the Cats Eye. I could never turn down a 100% or greater increase in killing speed.
- I would use the Razor over the Nos.
- I would level Penetrate last, so that GA would drop bosses better. With that much dex the AR bonus is not gonna be that neccessary.
- Gores instead of Travs.

[7th Army V-Iota]

Thanks for the comments guys, who knows, maybe i'll change somethings and do another rebuild and try it out :)

[Archerdoom]

I've been considering making a Bowazon, but never really had a well built one. Would this build be good for an ametuer Bowazon'er?

[7th Army V-Iota]

Well depending on the gear you wanna use. This is my personal build. While others have their opinions about it, there are many other builds (somewhat similiar in stats) that use different gear. I would say ya this is a good start. The most typical item used is Faith. Which is why i dont use it lol. But we all have our preferences. :)

[Archerdoom]

Hmm, ya. I might use Faith instead. But that one screenshot you posted in another thread showed your Zon with Fanaticism aura, did you only just recently get a WF?

Oh and does WF do more damage?

[saracen85]

windforce is the most damaging bow in the game. at least in terms of raw damage =)

[Archerdoom]

Freakin expensive though...I'm not rich.

[7th Army V-Iota]

WF is not expensive, hardly a hr like .999999998 of a hr :P

[sinisterfx859.com]

I've been considering making a Bowazon, but never really had a well built one. Would this build be good for an ametuer Bowazon'er?


This is a great build for an experienced bowa zon player. But if your building your 1st zon this one may give you problems in hell. All your gear is meant to give you str bonus so you can put all stat points into dex. This is great for raw power, but your ultra low resist stats and low life bar may get you pwned in hell.....unless of course you know how to play a glass cannon properly.

I would follow this basic build, but put just enough points into strength to use the gear you want. Ideally one that gives def and resist bonus.

My lvl 87 bowa is great in hell, but takes a lil longer to kill bosses.

I wear:

Kiras w/ 40/15
Fort
faith/windforce
gores
nos coil
dracs
highlords
raven
rare ring with nice stats

just my .02 worth

[kwittstruck]

IOTA- Do you think this build might be viable in classic. Theres no charms/torch/runes/gems out side of the topez emerald diamond ruby amithest skull, (i forget th 6th one of that) but anyway. If i can manage enough str to run this build, you think its possible without droping a point in str in classic?

Oh yea and the merc doesnt travel with you, Im stuck using the act merc unfortunatly, also cant equip them with anything.

EDIT: Im going to try it out anyway. Something new, something challanging. besies i dont think iev really played a bowama before. I'll let ya know something at lvl 60 or so.

[theOG22093]

Nice guide. I like how you used your own preferances instead of going with the crowd. ;D

[Mackdrizzle728]

Started building my own. At level 28 doing chaos runs right now.


Just inquiring as to where to put skill points. How many in each category.

It seemed a little vague before, unless im just reading it wrong.

[7th Army V-Iota]

IOTA- Do you think this build might be viable in classic. Theres no charms/torch/runes/gems out side of the topez emerald diamond ruby amithest skull, (i forget th 6th one of that) but anyway. If i can manage enough str to run this build, you think its possible without droping a point in str in classic?

Oh yea and the merc doesnt travel with you, Im stuck using the act merc unfortunatly, also cant equip them with anything.

EDIT: Im going to try it out anyway. Something new, something challanging. besies i dont think iev really played a bowama before. I'll let ya know something at lvl 60 or so.

Interesting and yet challenging, i bid you good luck! I have ponder the idea a bit and used Hero Editor as a bases. I ended up with mixed results but if you need a hand or have further questions, i'll be glad to help. ;)


Nice guide. I like how you used your own preferances instead of going with the crowd. ;D

Thanks OG :)


Started building my own. At level 28 doing chaos runs right now.


Just inquiring as to where to put skill points. How many in each category.

It seemed a little vague before, unless im just reading it wrong.

Didnt mean to be vague, the bow skills i mentioned, Strafe, GA*, Multi* are the skills of choice to max *these 2 are optional between each other, as i have mentioned, i may do a rebuild and do Multi instead, i rarely us GA now. The Passive tree, Valk, Decoy, and Penetrate should be maxed. Note that i maxed Valk and Decoy for meat shield purposes. The Valk is quite strong and is less susceptable to being killed easy (except from IM) any other points in the Passive tree only recieve 1 point (again this is just my preference) Hope this clears up some questions. ;)

[Mackdrizzle728]

It does, greatly.

Ty sir for the clarification.

[7th Army V-Iota]

It does, greatly.

Ty sir for the clarification.


Certainly welcome :cool:

[kwittstruck]

Right now i just hit lvl 13 and other then a lot of run/fire/repeat its doing ok, Str items are going to be the challenging thing. Right now im utilizing socked bow with cold fire and lightning. I am curious, if i got to magic arrow-13 to have unlimited and guided just at 7 for boss battles, cause im not going to try pvp anyway at all. or would 1 pt i guided work as any others dont improve damage that i know of. just reduces mana costs. Been a whil since i looked at higher lvl guide.

[7th Army V-Iota]

Right now i just hit lvl 13 and other then a lot of run/fire/repeat its doing ok, Str items are going to be the challenging thing. Right now im utilizing socked bow with cold fire and lightning. I am curious, if i got to magic arrow-13 to have unlimited and guided just at 7 for boss battles, cause im not going to try pvp anyway at all. or would 1 pt i guided work as any others dont improve damage that i know of. just reduces mana costs. Been a whil since i looked at higher lvl guide.


If youre still in act 1, go kill andy... lvl13 MA should finish her off. Try to save your skills for strafe and you wont have to run back and forth. Try to understand that playing SP is a challenge and at most times, if you need to, use the points for str... its not like youre gonna find a unique armor right away. And since you use ATMA, u can always mule your items to a new build. Also, keep 1 point into GA, but try not to add anymore to MA.

[kwittstruck]

Oh i dont have anythign into MA, All my points are saved except for the pre's atm. I was just wondering if that would be something that would work. Anyway i play threw with players 8, So if i went to players-1 it would be 1 hit kills for most anything. I try to play players=8 at first threw normal, with exceptions of some bosses, andy cause poison of hers kills and duriel cause well for obv reasons. but the rest i've been able to handle players 8. Anyway, its also great for lvling. I do have some unique gear in atma, just have to get to the level and possibly str to get there. If i do use str pts, how much would you think to cap off at?

[Archerdoom]

Ya just started her yesterday. Shes level 30 now but still having a bit of problems with strength. I've been able to have self control, I haven't put anything at all into anything but Dex. My weapon is rather weak, it's a Hunters Bow with 3 Orts (semi-lol). Quick question, what bow were you using around levels 30-50? I think if I could find a ring that gives at least 20 strength I could equip some WAY better stuff, maybe a Harmony sometime.

[kwittstruck]

Ive go a helm that has 20 str in atma, i think once i get to the level req ill be fine, question though base strength is 20, if item req is 35 but gives 20, you would have 40, can you still equip that or do you need 35 prior too the equip?

[Archerdoom]

You need the 35 to equip it, unfortunately.

[7th Army V-Iota]

Oh i dont have anythign into MA, All my points are saved except for the pre's atm. I was just wondering if that would be something that would work. Anyway i play threw with players 8, So if i went to players-1 it would be 1 hit kills for most anything. I try to play players=8 at first threw normal, with exceptions of some bosses, andy cause poison of hers kills and duriel cause well for obv reasons. but the rest i've been able to handle players 8. Anyway, its also great for lvling. I do have some unique gear in atma, just have to get to the level and possibly str to get there. If i do use str pts, how much would you think to cap off at?

If you happen to have Nosferatu and Dracs in that ATMAs of yours lol. Spend bout 30, total 50 base str...


Ya just started her yesterday. Shes level 30 now but still having a bit of problems with strength. I've been able to have self control, I haven't put anything at all into anything but Dex. My weapon is rather weak, it's a Hunters Bow with 3 Orts (semi-lol). Quick question, what bow were you using around levels 30-50? I think if I could find a ring that gives at least 20 strength I could equip some WAY better stuff, maybe a Harmony sometime.

LVL30? time to toss out that hunter bow. find a nice shadow bow or a +3 skill ceremonial bow and make a Harmony, in fact, just use a 4 soc shadow bow, the requirements are lighter than a gothic bow and has a higher damage range.

During my lvling stages, i use a diverse number of bows. From Raven Claw to Kuko to Witchwild to Goldstrike and many others. And some use of runeword bows. I pretty much have a warehouse of bows to suit my needs.

[kwittstruck]

I dont think Dracs is an option i have. i think that was lod only. another question though, Instead of str items, what about items with -20% or -30% requirements It would do about the same thing, as i see it any way. Something that required 100 str with a -30% bring it down to 70 str. Im not sure if that ability stacks though. theroetically, one could drop it to a -100% with the right items if it does stack. mix that with + to str and might be good no?

[7th Army V-Iota]

-Req dont stack, only the item in question recieves that bonus.

[Mackdrizzle728]

Update:


At about lvl 80 right now doing 6.5k damage with GA and about 4.5 with Strafe!!!

Love this build!!!!!

Recommended!!

[kwittstruck]

Oh Well i got LOD working today. I just have to mf some good LOD items now, and making a new character to do that for now. But this build is difinatly something im going to work on :D

[7th Army V-Iota]

Update:


At about lvl 80 right now doing 6.5k damage with GA and about 4.5 with Strafe!!!

Love this build!!!!!

Recommended!!

Hey Mack! Thanks for the recommenation! Im glad its workin for ya bro :cool: We should sometime have a get together and kill some monsters :D


Oh Well i got LOD working today. I just have to mf some good LOD items now, and making a new character to do that for now. But this build is difinatly something im going to work on


Thats great you got LoD now :D If you need any further help, lemme know :cool:

[Archerdoom]

The problem is I'm having some trouble finding strength charms, my strength is only 26 with one +1 to str sc, a +4 to str lc, and a +1 to str and a lot of attack rating ring.

Hehe, Kwitt finally gets LoD, 'bout time:D

[kwittstruck]

Yea its almost a whole new game. Now i can make my characters somewhat godly, and half way competative. anyway, not the thread for the talk of lod, msg me if you like :)

[7th Army V-Iota]

The problem is I'm having some trouble finding strength charms, my strength is only 26 with one +1 to str sc, a +4 to str lc, and a +1 to str and a lot of attack rating ring.

Hehe, Kwitt finally gets LoD, 'bout time:D

I find str charms all the time, even +1 scs, i keep, i keep em all then store them on a mule. Sure it may seem tedious to carry a full load in the beginning but worth the time, at least for me it is. ;)


Yea its almost a whole new game. Now i can make my characters somewhat godly, and half way competative. anyway, not the thread for the talk of lod, msg me if you like :)

Does this mean you will be on bnet?:D

[Archerdoom]

Finally found some convienent runewords that give to strength that should let me equip my Harmony. I'm starting to like this build.

[kwittstruck]

I find str charms all the time, even +1 scs, i keep, i keep em all then store them on a mule. Sure it may seem tedious to carry a full load in the beginning but worth the time, at least for me it is. ;)




Does this mean you will be on bnet?:D

Eentually, Id almost need to get faster internet first, Im on ly on 56k so id lag horribly i would think

[7th Army V-Iota]

Finally found some convienent runewords that give to strength that should let me equip my Harmony. I'm starting to like this build.

Glad to see its working for you :)

Eentually, Id almost need to get faster internet first, Im on ly on 56k so id lag horribly i would think

Actually i had a friend on dial-up and not once he lagged, it thought he would but it played perfectly.

[kwittstruck]

Well let me get 2 more llbuilds done just to get used to how they play (druids/assassins) cause i want to know how they are typically played before i hit the bnet. Just in that case of some jacka** trying to jump me.

[7th Army V-Iota]

Sure enough youre welcome to join the Com Guards :D

[kwittstruck]

thanks, Ill look forward to that, You happen to have yahoo/msn messenger?

[7th Army V-Iota]

Nah, i rarely communicate via messengers :P

[kwittstruck]

Just an update, With charms and items ill have str to 60+ at lvl 20. Only have 2 more levels to go and i havnt even hit andy yet (players 8) But im on the hunt. Ill take her at lvl 20 it seems. but for the battle i think im going to drop player count down some, my bow atm is kind of weak. and i have some in atma but lvl 25 is needed... Also I did test the RWM i have and it works so i can make edge if i want. For a early bow anyway. Another question i have. Does the enhanced damage come right away or is it after you hit 200 dex? Ive got mixed answers. thas about all for now.

[Archerdoom]

Well at level 50 I've got 120 strength without putting a point into it, the only problem is that not very much of it comes from charms and the items I'm using probably have to be replaced soon.

One question though, what is the purpose of maxing Penetrate?

[kwittstruck]

in pvm its a thing to take out the shawmen and other crits that revive anything, besides with penitrate and multi, it becomes very useful. :)
Currently all my str is gear but i do have about 30 str reserved in charms if i need em. gear includes twitchthroe, 10 srt, 20 ias, 20 fhr, 10 to dex and 25 increased chance of blocking, however no shield kind of voides that, then my belt is currently a heavy blt with 5 to str, I ve got mask of horror giveing 20 to str and 50% chance of terror. all res 10 and +50% damage to undead. Ive got an amy that holds 5 to str and my glove and boots are decent modded rares with no str and my bow is raven dart rare, 19-32 dmg with increased max and min damages along with 6 poison over 2 sec and 1 to bow/cross bow skills. currently lvl 25. total damage after dex is applied is maxing at 85 ive got other great bows that deal 3-4 times more damage in atma, but require lvl 30. so tell then im having a little bit of a rough time but nothing i cant handle :D

[7th Army V-Iota]

One question though, what is the purpose of maxing Penetrate?

To increase your Attack Rating ;)

[kwittstruck]

with a huge amount of dex isnt attack rating high nuff?

[7th Army V-Iota]

Unlike Faith, you need as much AR you can achieve.

BTW, im rebuild my zon again :p

[kwittstruck]

Going to do anything different?

[Veneteaou]

Whoa whoa whoa... Don't EVER max Penetrate. While it doesn't suffer directly from diminishing returns, you really won't get that much out of it at higher levels. If you have 200+ Dex (and good zons do), then you have a wild amount of AR, more than enough to Strafe or MS down random creeps. Seeing as how GA (an auto-hit, non-AR based attack) is used on single targets like bosses with crazy defense levels, you don't need to squeeze out percentage points for AR.

Besides, there is a study somewhere (I think the AB) that shows maxing Inner Sight is more beneficial to the killing speed of a zon with mercenary than Penetrate is.

[Shallie]

I agree with Veneteaou. Max Penetrate is a waste especially if you build a glass canon zon. I never put more than 1 point into it and it has always been sufficient. You should rather spend your points into Pierce which will increase your dmg in PvM far more than Penetrate.

[Mistakes]

I would say go for the 3/20/20's or PDscs rather than str scs.
Unless you can get some str on a pdsc or something.
A few points in STR wont really matter, seeing as you will be able to use loads more dmg charms.

Just a suggestion.

[Archerdoom]

How much are 40/15s?

[7th Army V-Iota]

How much are 40/15s?

To be honest, im not exactly positive what they are worth... maybe 2-3 hrs...?

Whoa whoa whoa... Don't EVER max Penetrate. While it doesn't suffer directly from diminishing returns, you really won't get that much out of it at higher levels. If you have 200+ Dex (and good zons do), then you have a wild amount of AR, more than enough to Strafe or MS down random creeps. Seeing as how GA (an auto-hit, non-AR based attack) is used on single targets like bosses with crazy defense levels, you don't need to squeeze out percentage points for AR.

Besides, there is a study somewhere (I think the AB) that shows maxing Inner Sight is more beneficial to the killing speed of a zon with mercenary than Penetrate is.

Aw man, if what you say is true, then i may have to rebuild my zon for the gazillionth time lol... oh well, see, im not a know it all lol, im still learning :)

[justnoob]

Last time when i played (europe) a 40/15 was easily 4-5 hr's

[7th Army V-Iota]

Just an update on my zon, current lvl is 91 with 655 dex.
Skills Strafe (max lvl), Multi-shot (enough for max arrows), Decoy (max lvl), Valk (max lvl).

Damage is still decent with the right pally aura, strafe comes out at 10k with con. I managed to obtain a great number of 3/20/2dex scs. Im not really concerned with my life. I have about close to 1k life, still room to improve. Res is bad, again not my concern. Leeching is not a problem (^.^) My merc faith is the same lvl. I rolled a 15/2 Faith Hydra a few weeks ago... im so happy lol.

[kwittstruck]

First off i wanna say bump, just seems theres a lot of bow questions on the front and i figured this is a decent build to pop back on the front spot.



Im not really concerned with my life. I have about close to 1k life.

sorry i just kind of found that funny, and for the record too, im gona start using this build myself though i might not max GA but a point or 2 and let + skills handle the rest meanwhile might use my skills like this
approx 15 multishot with just 8 to skills leves ya with 24 arrows and after that would be a bit of a burn in skills
max strife
max velk
max decoy
i also like 5 into critical strike, 50% chance to double damage with the +skills that one can have :D
and 5 of each into avoid evade and dodge just to reach about 50% with each after skillers.

thats 95 pts
4 pre
total at 99pts used place rest wherever ya feel

just something im gona try, what about it 7th? you think it be ok?

[theOG22093]

Mind me asking what 7th Army V-Iota means?
Nice guide btw, good build.

[kwittstruck]

Mind me asking what 7th Army V-Iota means?
Nice guide btw, good build.

All i know is that its an army division of some book series that he likes. A clan he runs online is somewhat based on it too.

[7th Army V-Iota]

Mind me asking what 7th Army V-Iota means?
Nice guide btw, good build.

Thanks OG, been awhile since i last visited. As Kwitt mentioned, yes it is from a game i play or rather use to play and i use this as a persona. The faction im using is ComStar (Com Guards). Within ComStar they have units built around armies. "7th" is literally the 7th Army. "V" is the designation for army level, "IV" is designated for division level, "III" is the designation for battalion level, "II" is the designation used for units compromising of 6 units or a demi-company (2 lvl IIs would make up a full company [12 units total]), and last, "I" designates a single unit.
Level I = 1 unit
Level II = 6 units
Level III (Battalion) = 36 units
Level IV (Division) = 216 units
Level V (Army) = 846-1,296 units

"iota" is the Branch Designation, which mostly consist of Infantry in this case. Of course the number of Battlemech units within this vary (there is a mix of 'mechs and infantry but with Battlemechs being more common with this unit)

So ya thats the meaning behind my username.

First off i wanna say bump, just seems theres a lot of bow questions on the front and i figured this is a decent build to pop back on the front spot.



sorry i just kind of found that funny, and for the record too, im gona start using this build myself though i might not max GA but a point or 2 and let + skills handle the rest meanwhile might use my skills like this
approx 15 multishot with just 8 to skills leves ya with 24 arrows and after that would be a bit of a burn in skills
max strife
max velk
max decoy
i also like 5 into critical strike, 50% chance to double damage with the +skills that one can have :D
and 5 of each into avoid evade and dodge just to reach about 50% with each after skillers.

thats 95 pts
4 pre
total at 99pts used place rest wherever ya feel

just something im gona try, what about it 7th? you think it be ok?

Kwitt, looks good on paper, just have to build her and try her out. I havent played in months since the restart so my knowledge ATM is kinda rusty lol.

[theOG22093]

Thanks OG, been awhile since i last visited. As Kwitt mentioned, yes it is from a game i play or rather use to play and i use this as a persona. The faction im using is ComStar (Com Guards). Within ComStar they have units built around armies. "7th" is literally the 7th Army. "V" is the designation for army level, "IV" is designated for division level, "III" is the designation for battalion level, "II" is the designation used for units compromising of 6 units or a demi-company (2 lvl IIs would make up a full company [12 units total]), and last, "I" designates a single unit.
Level I = 1 unit
Level II = 6 units
Level III (Battalion) = 36 units
Level IV (Division) = 216 units
Level V (Army) = 846-1,296 units

"iota" is the Branch Designation, which mostly consist of Infantry in this case. Of course the number of Battlemech units within this vary (there is a mix of 'mechs and infantry but with Battlemechs being more common with this unit)

So ya thats the meaning behind my username.



Kwitt, looks good on paper, just have to build her and try her out. I havent played in months since the restart so my knowledge ATM is kinda rusty lol.

Holy info lol. I got some of that, but some was like "wha?" lol.

[7th Army V-Iota]

Ya sry i tried to make is easy ti understand and not soak alot lol :p

[7th Army V-Iota]

Currently im making a Zon that can run Chaos. So far i like it but this time im not using a torch, they tend to drop the game if others decide to attack using their torch. But anywhoooo... i got a Faith (which surprisingly im using, i normally use a WF), Laying of Hands, Inferno Strides, Nos Coil, Vampire Gaze, twin BKs, and Cat's Eye... a number of str charms and my anni. My only concern is getting to use my fort. Currently using Duriel's shell for the time being... im in need of more str charms lol... again my build is my traditional Glasszon. All stat points are in Dex and nothing else. My merc is Act1 Rogue, she uses a harmony for now. Not sure which bow i want her to use after. Im thinkin Ice Bow maybe. Of course my Valk is max level and decoy too, shes pretty strong. I need better boots and i think Gores is the way? Any tips to make this slightly better?

[Veneteaou]

If it is only for PvM, I will suggest you replace the Cat's Eye with an Atma's. The Amp proc means that at the very least you will deal twice as much damage as you would otherwise (and in hell it is usually 3x or more damage dealt).

Gloves are good, Gores would be an improvement for boots, I would get at least one Raven for a ring slot, possibly tweak some of the other stuff to hit IAS breakpoints, and get my merc either a Riphook/Blackthorn's combo or a Windforce.


Actually, I would ditch the Act 1 merc, and get an Act 2 Might Merc with an Obediance Polearm. Give him the Durry and Vamp gaze and watch him never die to anything except IM.

[7th Army V-Iota]

Glad u suggested Atma's, forgot bout that... i just slapped a 15ias/15 res jewel in my gaze... but i cant think of anything else that would give me more ias... currently now i am wearing my fort and now i use 1 raven and 1 bk... reason im using cat's eye is for the frw/ias/dex mods, i have a few frw scs at hand too but need to obtain gores atm.