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kubanec
03-17-2008, 09:03 PM
hi,i made my new hammerdin-he is lvl 89 and i need to know what bug is it...i have full gear on him all main skills maxed im in hell and he does only 3400-3700dmg i use concentration aura and blessed hammer.anyone know here what to do?thanks a lot:confused:

N V
03-17-2008, 09:16 PM
Have you maxed blessed hammer, concentration and all synergies? If you have done that, then what items do you use?

Valdorin
03-17-2008, 09:16 PM
Whoaaaah, there IS something wrong there. Usually they do like 15k damage! I'm not sure I can help you there, but if you know how to post a screenshot, post one of your stats, skills, and damage/ character screen, that MIGHT help. I really can't say though.

kubanec
03-17-2008, 09:51 PM
hmm my posts are low...i cant post images.all main skills are maxed holy hield,blessed hammer,concentration.i use enigma MP,shako,hoto,spirit,arach,raven+bk,magefist,maras amu and cta6...all is okay i think.stats are str 25 base with all items 153,dex is 152 for full block,vitality is 488 energy is base...all is good...

i found false...its in skilltree i didint give 20 to blessed aim and to vigor...sorry for this post :confused: im lame...

6 vigor 1 blessed aim 20charge 20 holy shield 20 blessed hammer 20 concentration...all is bad


i need to know best pvp build for hammerdin,can someone write here some?thanks

EnZello
03-18-2008, 12:08 AM
I am friend of kubanec. We were in the same game talking about this here.

As kubanec already have wrote, the skills were this here on his hammer:
6 vigor
1 blessed aim
20 concentration
20 charge
20 blessed hammer
20 holy shield

How do we need to skill him, if we want it done correct?

EDIT: He want both a pvp skilltree setup and a pvm skilltree setup.

terrn300
03-18-2008, 12:42 AM
Mini Hammerdin guide

remake your hammerdin. you do not need to max charge. you just need to max these skills. prefered in this order

1st.Concentration-20 or Blessed Hammer-20

2nd. Concentration-20 or Blessed Hammer-20
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I'd go with Concentration first because: More damage less mana; benifits party. If you go Blessed Hammer first, nothing is wrong, only that the damage may be different and you have to use more mana.
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3rd. Vigor-20

4th. Blessed Aim-20

5th. Holy shield-20.
(you may not be able to max holy shield because it requires a very high level to finish maxing this skill.)

Your stats are good, having to put all gear without spending a point in strenght.

Now, your gear may need a little change, Spirit is great because of the faster cast rate allows you to cast faster.
Since you want some PvP, i'd suggest you get a paladin circlet that has the following:
+2 to paladin skills
+ faster cast rate }MUST Have
Should have
1 or 2 sockets
+life
+mana
+resist
+faster run walk / faster hit recovery / faster block rate
+ defence

If you want damage, go for:

Wepon
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Hoto Aka Heart of the Oak (flail)

Armour
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Enigma (Mage Plate/Archon Plate/Wyrmhide/Scarab Husk/Dusk Shroud

Shield
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HoZ aka Hearld of Zakarum guilded shieldcan be upped/ ethedral. (Recommended socketed with: Cham- cannot be frozen, Um-adds 22 all resist making grand total of 72, Zod- if it is Ethedral

OR Spirit (Sacred Targe, Sacred Rondacge, etc. Recommended to have at least 35 all resistances. (45 is perfect).

Belt
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Aracnids Mesh spiderweb shashaka arac.

Boots
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Sandtreks scrabshell boots aka treks

War Travlers

Gloves
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Magefists

Rings
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Mana with 1 all skill- Stone of Jordan aka soj
Health with 1 all skill- Bul-Kathos Webbing Band aka Bk
Faster cast rate ring with +stats/ Resists

Amulet
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Mara's Kaelidascope-2 all skills, 5 all stats, 20-30 all resist

Switch
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Call to Arms aka CtA (Recommended to be made in weapon that has low requirements.) ex. crystal sword, flail

Spirit- any spirit works, the stats do not matter. Recommended to be made in a shield that has low requirements.

HiTS
03-18-2008, 12:53 AM
This is a dumb question, but you do have your concentration aura active don't you?

EnZello
03-18-2008, 02:33 AM
terrn300: He needs to be VERY high lvl to reach those to lvl 20. lvl 97 if I remember right. He have no planning getting that high. Max lvl 91.

Are you saying there's a difference in dmg. if he max concen first before blessed hammer?

As lvl 90, he have 101 skill points when all is done. Should it be done like this here then?

20 concentration
20 blessed hammer
20 holy shield
17 blessed aim
17 vigor



HiTS: Ofc ^^

Phoenix13
03-18-2008, 04:01 AM
The problem is the synergies.

DG.Havok
03-18-2008, 04:03 PM
holy shield is the last thing you max. the first 4 skills you have to max are concentration, blessed hammer, blessed aim and vigor. but like terrn said you will have to remake the character.

ayeaykay
03-18-2008, 08:43 PM
i have had this problem too. it says i do the same dmg without concentration on as i do with it on in certain games. it may like to say that but u r still doin about 15k. do not worry. it will go back to 15k in a few times started up...if not i would say u do have a problem but only in the writing. ur dmg will be about 15k.

N V
03-18-2008, 08:53 PM
So is 15k normal hammer dmg? I only get 11k lol. Though my eq isn' all that great.

sorry for OT >_<

cmlogu01
03-18-2008, 08:55 PM
i'd do blessed aim second to last tho, since I doubt you'll ever actually use it. It's not like it bonuses your hammer. only concentrate can affect that

2.0
03-18-2008, 08:56 PM
So is 15k normal hammer dmg? I only get 11k lol. Though my eq isn' all that great.

sorry for OT >_<
I have about 10k lol.

I can get higher, easily, but it's not needed at all.

I use my Hammerdin for mfing/rushing, and nothing more, so I just piled on magic find and went with a low damage 75% Fcr setup.

EnZello
03-19-2008, 05:24 AM
We've just remade him, and done the skilltree setup after your advices. With 9x pc sks, the hammerdmg is now 15k :)
We say thanks for help :)

Archerdoom
03-19-2008, 07:08 AM
So is 15k normal hammer dmg? I only get 11k lol. Though my eq isn' all that great.

sorry for OT >_<

With the cookie-cutter, stereotypical equipment for a hammerdin (y'know, Shako, Nigma, Arach, Hoto etc. etc. etc.), you'll be getting about 11k damage. That 15k is coming from p combs.