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Dlav123
01-03-2008, 02:44 AM
Vlad’s PvP Melee Sorceress


To be a PvPer you have to be rich so if not rich I don’t recommend making this build.



1. Intro
2. Stats
3. Skills
4. Gear
5. PvP strategies

1. Intro: A beast from the sun landed on the world of Diablo and is now terrifying every thing from monsters to other players. This beast is unstoppable and undefeated. Be ready to go on a journey beyond life and destroy everything that stops you from getting to the donut shop. Good luck with this build!

2. Stats
Str: enough for gear
Dex: enough for gear
Vit: until you have 100 vitality without gear
Mana: all

3. Skills

Cold skill tree:
1: Frozen armor

Fire skill tree:
1: Fire bolt
1: Fire ball
20: Fire mastery
20: Enchant
1: Warmth

Light skill tree:
1: Static field
1: Teleport
20: Telekinesis
20: Energy shield
20: light mastery

4. Gear
Weapon
Passion Phase Blade

Armor
MP CoH

Belt
Arachs

Gloves
Mage fists

Boots
Sandstorm treks

Helm
Dream circ

Ammy
3 to light skills 100 life ammy

Shield
Dream monarch

Rings
2 soj’s/bk's or bk/soj and ravenfrost

Switch
Cta and spirit

Screen
Perfect storch
Perfect anni
9 light skillers
10 all res

With this build your dmg will be over 32k.

Strategy

This is pretty simple cast Enchant and Energy shield.
Teleport around to confuse your enemy then teleport on top of your enemy and do zeal.
Enemy is dead.

Thank You and i hope you give a score and give suggestions
I will edit alot more this is my rough copy.

Habit88
01-03-2008, 03:51 AM
i'll have to try this out someday.

Sgt-Tancred
01-03-2008, 11:07 AM
Its a good build but u have to be a very good dueler to win in pvp.

Dlav123
01-03-2008, 02:39 PM
thank you for at least posting and im asking for suggestions and ratings because im 10 which makes my grammer limited and this is my second guide for a diablo2 character so i was pretty doutful but i think i really have out done myself this time.
Please be hard on me and give me a score that you think is true and support your score and tell me what i can improve.

I will be adding colors and all that other stuff soon.

Darkness Howls
01-03-2008, 09:20 PM
Heh, I like this...get's straight to the point and is certainly viable. I like. :D

Some suggestions, though. Offer alternative gear solutions. Not everyone will be able to afford high-end gear. I also suggest you mention BOTD/Grief as weapons. They may not provide an oskill, but their damage might make up for it. Also, if you have IAS, consider making the weapon in a zerker axe.

Good job! :D

*Nibbles on kitten*

MadMardegan
01-03-2008, 09:56 PM
My friend had a melee sorc that did like 70k dmg. How come this only does 9k?

fearfest18
01-03-2008, 10:04 PM
ok

MadMardegan
01-03-2008, 10:14 PM
Hey fearfest either answer the question or don't. Stop doing **** like that just to get your post count up and get more gold.

2.0
01-03-2008, 10:19 PM
Shouldn't you be maxing Lightning mastery? :/

It will add a TON of damage. (More so than maxing Enchants synergy's)

Wrongbow
01-03-2008, 10:42 PM
To be a PvPer you have to be rich so if not rich I don’t recommend making this build.

Lol, I love the way you started the guide xD. I'm not sure if you're suppose to max Energy Shield, as it's not high enough to get to 95, I don't think, so what's the point, and that would remove the need to max Telekinesis? Wouldn't putting skills into Lightning Mastery increase your dmg a huge deal? But then again I'm a noob at this, so correct this if you need to please.

Dlav123
01-03-2008, 10:49 PM
lots of changes and now u will have over 32k dmg making u even stronger and u will have about 30k dmg wit the aura so to kill ur enemy u can just tele around and let ur aura do the work.

Habit88
01-03-2008, 11:00 PM
can i suggest that you change that god awful orange color. it makes my eyes wanna pop out with this color background(sp?).

GalenDoUrden
01-03-2008, 11:01 PM
You absolutely need to max lightning mastery, as pointed out it will add huge amounts of damage due to the fact that it gets added twice.

As for you build, you should take into consideration the ias break points needed for zeal. I have added these below (initial attack/follow up attack):
11/8 30 IAS
9/8 54 IAS
10/7 65 IAS

As you are going with a high es build, I would drop the COH for either a viper mage with a 15/15 jewel or a 60/60/100 life armour. With the viper, you will still need some additional IAS, however, you are a little more flexible with your other gear.

Also as you are going with a high es build, resists are not as important therefore you should use fine/life sc's in order to get additional a/r.

Dlav123
01-03-2008, 11:15 PM
habit88 i will do so right now and attack speed isnt really important its pretty much a one hit kill and why doesnt anyone give me a score?
LOL

Wrongbow
01-03-2008, 11:30 PM
Hmm, well, it could happen that a monster/person can tank dmg, such as a 95 ES Sorc, and you need to attack them before then can run away and heal or something.

Oh also, you still need to max Warmth, as it is the only synergy to Enchant. =P

EDIT: Off-topic, but this auto-merge doublepost thing completely kicks ***. Thanks for the upgrade =]

Habit88
01-04-2008, 12:41 AM
habit88 i will do so right now and attack speed isnt really important its pretty much a one hit kill and why doesnt anyone give me a score?
LOL

sooo much better. and i score guides after i make the char and i don't have the extra funds right now to obtain all the gear:(

dackman4
01-04-2008, 08:02 AM
nice guide, nice and easy to read, could do with some other options for gear, i giv it 7.5/10

GalenDoUrden
01-04-2008, 02:14 PM
habit88 i will do so right now and attack speed isnt really important its pretty much a one hit kill and why doesnt anyone give me a score?
LOL

Attack speed is incredibly important. If your first swing is slow then you will tele on top of someone and watch them teleport or run away before you can hit them. Currenty with your damage you will not one hit kill anyone:

30k damage * (1-.75) / 6 = 1,250.

That is how much damage you would be doing to a person with standard resists. Add in increased max or asorb and you will be doing less. Even with 70k damage you will only be doing 2,916 damage against standard resist characters.

I will have to give this a score of 2/10 till you fix the break points of your character, max lightning mastery and change the colour.

Edit - I just noticed you did change the colours and max lightning mastery (although you are now above 110 skill points), so I'll bump you to a 4/10. You should also consider PvP strategies for each character.

Dlav123
01-04-2008, 03:01 PM
it doesnt use over 110 skills so dont lie and i will be editing today so dont worry and guys i think i have outdone my self cause im 10

N V
01-04-2008, 03:02 PM
Lol, I love the way you started the guide xD. I'm not sure if you're suppose to max Energy Shield, as it's not high enough to get to 95, I don't think, so what's the point.

9 light skillers
torch (3 skills)
anni (1 skill)
CoH (2 skills)
arach (1 skill)
2 SoJ (2 skills
3 light amu
20 hard points.

+3 sorc skills, 6 to all skills, 12 to light skills and 20 point in ES=41 points in ES. 40 points gives 95 absorb so he could actually remove 1 ring and use raven since i dont think he have canot be frozen anywhere which would kill his attack speed. or did i overlook that mod somewhere?


other than that its an ok guide. can use some more work on item section and the strategy needs to be reworked too. teleport around to confuse someone then teleport on top of them isnt a very good strategy really. you cant use the same tactics against all opponents. just keep on improving the guide and keep up the good work ;)

btw, out of curiosity, have you ever made a duel dream sorc before? i would love to make one sometime but its too expensive for me :(

Dlav123
01-04-2008, 03:09 PM
no but dont get angry at me i cant afford this either but im very good at math enought to know if this build is effective and i will keep updating that why i asked for coments and i know the strats suck like hell and i will be improving intime cause im still healing from the flu

GalenDoUrden
01-04-2008, 03:31 PM
Sorry miscounted on the skills.

As for having never made the build, you really should first. Math only gets you so far in diablo, you also need to undertand the character and Diablo inside and out.

Dlav123
01-04-2008, 04:00 PM
now if someone can give me a good armor that already has IAS
i was thinking crow caw but that kinda sucks(15 IAS)



Dom didnt make the rabies fury druid and he made a guide and his guides are awesome so no i dont have to make the build to write a guide.

N V
01-04-2008, 04:11 PM
no but dont get angry at me i cant afford this either but im very good at math enought to know if this build is effective and i will keep updating that why i asked for coments and i know the strats suck like hell and i will be improving intime cause im still healing from the flu

im not angry, i just wanted to know. why should i be angry about someone wanting to make a guide about a build that interest them even if they didnt make it?

anyway i have to say that guides written based on own experience using it usually become better, but you did well with this guide. and feedback/criticism can help improve guides tremendously. keep up the good work.

btw since you havnt played a duel dream sorc i would suggest dropping the strat section until a) you have made this build and tried it or b) have someone with experience help you with that part.

now if someone can give me a good armor that already has IAS
i was thinking crow caw but that kinda sucks(15 IAS)

i think i would have used CoH for armor, but its been some time since i last read about duel dreams and did some research about it that im not sure.


Dom didnt make the rabies fury druid and he made a guide and his guides are awesome so no i dont have to make the build to write a guide.

i thought he did make that character and played it from act 1 normal to act 5 hell. but i might be wrong on this.

GalenDoUrden
01-04-2008, 04:13 PM
now if someone can give me a good armor that already has IAS
i was thinking crow caw but that kinda sucks(15 IAS)



Dom didnt make the rabies fury druid and he made a guide and his guides are awesome so no i dont have to make the build to write a guide.

Actually I'm quite sure he has built a Rabies druid before, he just doesn't have one currently. Also his guide is for PvM, PvM play is a fair bit easier and your gear/break points don't need to be as good. In the end if you want to make a good guide (especially for PvP), you need to have played the character.

As for the armour, I still say a viper with a 15/15 or a 60/60/100 life would be the best. However, if you need other otions, try Treachery.

Dlav123
01-04-2008, 04:18 PM
N V if u read his guide and looked at the comments he doesnt have one and i will be searching for one as a friend and ask him to explain his strats so far no luck cause they seem kinda rare but im trying to get more people to read this so i can get more comments and critasizm(unsure how to spell it)
The only reason i made this guide was because i remember a enchant sorc and when i was lvl 13 she joined my game and she enchanted me then my friend joined to give me some gold so i could buy stuff from stores like pots and all stuff and i challenged him to a duel and i bet on all his gear that if i hit him i can kill him in one hit and by that time the sorc left so when he stode still i hit him and he was dead--------full set of mf gear:)

N V
01-04-2008, 04:27 PM
he only have a cold inferno sorc now, but im almost 100% sure he had a rabies/fury druid last year. i made on because i was inspired by his build and how well he did with it.

full mf gear because you 1 hit killed someone when being enchanted? thats cool. he cant have been very high lvl or had very good res though. enchant isnt really that strong, and especially when you dont get the extra bonus from fire mastery.

GalenDoUrden
01-04-2008, 04:37 PM
Actually I read through his guide and he's had one in the past. You can tell by what he wrote. He just doesn't have one currently, which is why he said he's currently playing a Cold sorc.

Dlav123
01-04-2008, 04:42 PM
now i want u to delete that link

advertising the same build on a guide isnt nice and u can just send me a message with it and i have the link saved now plz delete it.

GalenDoUrden
01-04-2008, 04:51 PM
Well there is a difference between advice and advertising. I was giving you advice, however, I have deleted the link per your request.

As for this guide, given all of the responses, I think it would be better if you rethought your build, built it (and even possibly try out alternative gear selections) and then after you have some experience with the character rewrite the guide. It will provide a much better product that could get stickied.

Currently it is more of an advice thread.

Dlav123
01-04-2008, 05:12 PM
i created this build to get advice and i am nvr expecting for this to get stickied I just wanted to make a guide that there are not alot of even berfore the reset i think there were none of these builds and its fun not going with the crowd cause when i used to go to the pally section i would see over 5 hammerdian guides that are not stickied and im tired of seeing the same thing over and over again and wanted to make something different.
anyway not everybody is great at writing guides and even though i like ur posts because they give me alot of suggestions it seems like ur adding anger or attitude to ur posts

GalenDoUrden
01-04-2008, 06:25 PM
Nope, I was never adding anger or attitude. Tone just doesn't come accross effectively in written responses. That's why I added my signature.

N V
01-04-2008, 07:46 PM
what Galen says is true, having played as the char will give you experience and will let you create a much better guide. but making a guide or speculating about one without having made one is perfectly acceptable and what you have made here is a lot better than what used to be posted (and no doubt will be again) before the reset.

if you ever make a duel dream/chanter/melee sorc and play with it, rewriting the guide is not a bad idea, and who knows it could even become stickied ;)

btw Galen, love your sig :D

Dlav123
01-05-2008, 12:02 AM
i like the sig too but adding colors would make it cooler anyway moving on to N V's post--------still movin------
yes it is true that those who play the char can make a better build and someday i will make this build only alittle different because i cant afford dreams and anyway i will not be rewriting this instead i will be updating it and i was thinking of the runeword treachery for armor has a nice 45 IAS or crow caws with 15/15 in it so what do u think is better...
I think i will make a poll

Orbit Hero
01-05-2008, 01:37 AM
I agree. well kind of. But the 100 into vitality is pointless. Same with Shiver Armor.
I still like it though.

Kakashi Hatake
01-05-2008, 01:46 AM
a very basic and straight forward guide. u didnt i think of this lol. my only question is if u have dream helm and shield, wont 1 holy shock aura cancle out the other? besides that question i think its a fantastic guide gj

(sry for the double post but i cant edit)
when u say 15/15 what r u talkin about with ur crow caw?

saracen85
01-05-2008, 02:13 AM
a very basic and straight forward guide. u didnt i think of this lol. my only question is if u have dream helm and shield, wont 1 holy shock aura cancle out the other? besides that question i think its a fantastic guide gj

(sry for the double post but i cant edit)
when u say 15/15 what r u talkin about with ur crow caw?

auras granted from an item will stack with the same aura granted from another item.
ie holy fire from hand of justice will stack with holy fire from dragon armor and helm, holy shock from dream helm will stack with holy shock from dream armor.

GalenDoUrden
01-05-2008, 02:50 AM
A 15/15 is a 15ias/15resist jewel.

Dlav123
01-05-2008, 08:30 PM
oh lol i thought it was 15ias and 15 max dmg anyway I have a BIG problem

THE EDIT BUTTON IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!:(
well now when i get some good changes i will rewrite this guide....................or not

saracen85
01-06-2008, 02:35 AM
you're using ES aren't you? then forget about 15ias/15resist jewel. or any other high resist armor/jewels. the resistances are applied after energy shield. should your want survivability, go for high straight pdr gear =)

N V
01-06-2008, 08:01 AM
what happens if the shield is taken out by mana burn with low res or if you encounter a psn nova nec or similar with psn dmg?

res isnt totally useless ;)

Dargad
01-06-2008, 01:25 PM
In my opinion, it's not the best idea to invest a full 20 points into Energy Shield. It can be easily pre-buffed, and at level 40, it lasts over 40 minutes so there's no need to do it that often. Keep a +9 ES Memory staff, a +3 Lightning skills circlet, another SoJ or BK ring and a +3 ES Ormus in your stash so you can pre-buff your ES before fights. It allows you to save something like 12 skill points. Not too shabby.

Also, note that Demon Limb gives an already full pledged level 23 Enchant, which allows you to invest in the synergy, Warmth, thus giving you an even larger Mana regeneration. A level 31 Enchant with 1 point in Warmth and 31 in Fire Mastery, as you suggest in this build, gives 567-685 fire damage. On the other hand, a level 23 Enchant from Demon Limb, along with 20 points in Warmth and 31 in Fire Mastery gives 828-1056 fire damage, all that with 390% mana regeneration. And no, Demon Limb doesn't need to be carried with you at all times, as Enchant lasts 11 minutes.

And why in the world would you be using a Monarch as a shield ? It requires a useless amount of 156 strength, and there are much better shields available for Dream, as is takes only 3 sockets. I would suggest a Troll Nest, as it has even better defense and about the same block %. This saves you a buttload of strength and gives much better end results.

Dlav123
05-16-2009, 10:27 PM
bump

Omnicide
05-17-2009, 01:41 AM
I thought you just made this to get advice.

Have you made any improvements to the build?

If you want to tele, your FCR is horrid. O_o It's as good as a basic BvC.

Forget the life...you're going on ES, but you keep stressing life and vitality. If you go Energy Shield...you go energy/mana.