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Arkath
03-11-2008, 04:29 PM
Im working on my first smiter and I have a question about what weapon to use. I know a lot of people say to use grief, but why wouldnt people use last wish instead?

I have both weapons in his stash already and I plan on testing them both out when I level to use them, but wouldnt a lvl ## might aura be better instead of just +damage?

Like I said this is my first smiter so any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.

Zarley
03-11-2008, 04:42 PM
You already have plenty of off-weapon ED from Fanaticism and Smite. Might doesn't add nearly as much as Grief. Grief is the rough equivalent of +90 to Holy Shield in terms of raw damage. So... level 17 Might or +90 to Holy Shield?

The Crushing Blow on Last Wish is GFG vs. an opponent with 600K life (i.e. Ubers), but for pure non-CB damage, Grief is the unrivaled king.

Immortal_Daemon
03-11-2008, 05:05 PM
Along with Zarley's explanation is speed.

Last Wish doesn't have any speed on it, and a Grief has plenty.
If you're going for PvM, this isn't much of a problem, but if you do any PvP whatsoever, you'll get destroyed without IAS.

Arkath
03-11-2008, 07:22 PM
Ahhh ok. Thanks for the explanation. So I should use Grief only when I pvp and use Last Wish for when I do Ubers then?

Thanks for your help guys.

Phoenix13
03-13-2008, 04:24 PM
Yep last wish is your first choice for PvM, CB, fade, life tap those are vitals! For PvP use Grief because of the speed increase and damage addition.

aznmatt001
03-14-2008, 01:18 AM
well..if ur going 2 pvp..use grief..if u want 2 uber use last wish...

Arkath
03-14-2008, 08:42 PM
Thanks guys for your help. I have one more question actually. but its about the helm I plan to use now lol. I have a 30 res 2 open socket CoA. Along with my Dungos and CoH/Enigma I have 8% dr from CoH/Enigma, 12% CoA, and 15% Dungos, should I use Ber-Ber in the open sockets or use Ber-Um because my resists are still kinda low when I use enigma, around 25% without Hell anya yet. The total DR without Ber-Ber is 35% and with Ber-Ber that would actually take me over the DR limit, any insight would be appreciated.

Zarley
03-14-2008, 11:39 PM
You can get res from charms, and you can't get DR%.

dainbramage
03-15-2008, 12:56 AM
Bers get you easy DR if you're PvPing with your smiter. Res is easy to pick up elsewhere on a pally (i.e. don't use a fookin hoz or exile in UT).

DK_MelMan
03-16-2008, 07:59 PM
Like Zarley said - You can get res from charms! But why do you even switch to Enigma on a Smiter?

Immortal_Daemon
03-17-2008, 12:27 AM
Like Zarley said - You can get res from charms! But why do you even switch to Enigma on a Smiter?

I'm an avid supporter of Enigmas on a Smiter.


Mind you, though, I'm purely PvP.

The strength bonus is amazingly handy for using high-strength items like a CoA.

Arkath
03-19-2008, 11:05 PM
I have an Enigma on my smiter simply for getting around faster (i.e. key runs, rushes, etc.) Mind you I dont use enigma when Im doing Ubers I always switch over to my CoH and I always make sure that Fade from my last wish has procced giving me a total of about 197 total resists when I go in so mephs convic aura really doesnt phase my guy that much ;)

DORK_servius
03-28-2008, 07:29 PM
as they all said before go with the ber ber it will help you in pvp and res charms are very easy to find.