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Sfx_
01-02-2008, 09:34 PM
This Guide is for Pvm / PvP (it is mostly directed at PvP)

I)Skill distribution
II)Stats
III)Gear
IIII)Pvm Tactics


This certian skill setup is reached at level 90 with all quests done
I)_--_Skill Distribution_--_
//Poision and bone Tree\\
16 teeth
1 Corpse Explosion(Main Pvm tool )
20 Bonespear
20 Bone Spirit
1 Bone Armour ( perquisite and ok for taking 800 dmg easy :P)
20 Bone wall
20 Bone cage

//Curses\\
1 amplify damage (only curse you need to spam with Corpse explode in Pvm/ makes corpse explode dmg 100% more physical)

//Summoning\\
1 clay golem (great meat shield and can take a couple guided arrows in pvp)
1 golem mastery(Optional just makes your golem tank more hits in pvm)

II)~~||STATS||~~

Strenght-enough for gear
Dexterity-enough for gear
Vitality-rest here
Energy-NONE gear gives plenty



III)__-_Gear_-__\\

Helm-harlequin crest with and um / good rune in it http://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/items/helms/elite/armor/harlequin-crest.html

Body-Enigma runeword http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/items/1-10-runewords/1-10-runewords/enigma-runeword.html

weap/shield Set-White in a good wand /Spirit)http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/original-runewords/items/white-runeword.html , http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/ladder-only/items/1-10-runewords/spirit-runeword.html

Gloves-Magefists or Trangshttp://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/normal/items/gloves/armor/magefist.html

Belt-arachnid mesh http://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/items/elite/belts/armor/arachnid-mesh.html

Boots-Marrows good str / dex on em http://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/items/elite/boots/armor/marrowwalk.html

Rings-1 Soj and a 10%fcr with mods ringhttp://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/rings/items/stone-of-jordan.html

Ammy-Maras , great resists and +2 skills http://www.diablo2.com/article/uniques/items/amulets/mara-s-kaleidoscope.html

Switch-Call to arms/spirit)
http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/items/1-10-runewords/1-10-runewords/call-to-arms-runeword.html , http://www.diablo2.com/article/runewords/ladder-only/items/1-10-runewords/spirit-runeword.html

Invintory
Annihulis charm
Necro torch
9 Poision and bone Skill charms (Optional)
IIII)__~~~_PVM Tactics_~~~__
1)Kill a few monsters in a group with bone spear
2)Spam amp damage a couple times
3)Use corpse explosion and watch the body's hit the floor like they got the black plague :)
4)If your fighting a strong monster spam cage on it and then your nice and safe for 24 seconds or till it breaks them :P
(For those monsters that are magic immune and fire/ physical immune just run)

GalenDoUrden
01-02-2008, 09:47 PM
This isn't a guide, it is your build for your character. Your character doesn't reach 125fcr, you need another 10fcr. You haven't addressed charms and therefore your current resists would be -15/20/20/20.

You should really max teeth before wall or prison (depending on your preference). The additional damage is helpful against certain characters (ie. windies).

Also if this is a guide directed at PvP, you should really have some dueling strategies.

Belhemel
01-02-2008, 10:40 PM
You said you weren't going to use cookie cutter items but those are pretty much cookie cutter with a few exceptions.

Sfx_
01-02-2008, 11:33 PM
This isn't a guide, it is your build for your character. Your character doesn't reach 125fcr, you need another 10fcr. You haven't addressed charms and therefore your current resists would be -15/20/20/20.

You should really max teeth before wall or prison (depending on your preference). The additional damage is helpful against certain characters (ie. windies).

Also if this is a guide directed at PvP, you should really have some dueling strategies.

Thanks for the input , this is my first guide :rolleyes:.. forgot about them breakpoints :\

Habit88
01-02-2008, 11:39 PM
You said you weren't going to use cookie cutter items but those are pretty much cookie cutter with a few exceptions.

whats the few exceptions?

Belhemel
01-03-2008, 01:15 AM
whats the few exceptions?

Let's just take a look shall we. To start Marrowwalks are used by lots of bone necros, then you have a shako or harlequin crest w/e you wanna call it, Enigma for your arm which is used by almost every build. Also White is the ultimate wand for any bone necro and used in almost every elite guide and even crappy ones. Then you have arachnid for your belt, there really isn't any other choice here so yeah that's pretty much cookie cutter too unless you are going for sorb then a tgods would be a good choice. If you have read any other bone necro guide you have probably seen these items at the top of the list and if you didn't then those people didn't know what they were talking about. Not saying you did a bad job b/c the gear choices are good it's just that they ARE "cookie cutter" items.

GalenDoUrden
01-03-2008, 02:14 AM
Let's just take a look shall we. To start Marrowwalks are used by lots of bone necros, then you have a shako or harlequin crest w/e you wanna call it, Enigma for your arm which is used by almost every build. Also White is the ultimate wand for any bone necro and used in almost every elite guide and even crappy ones. Then you have arachnid for your belt, there really isn't any other choice here so yeah that's pretty much cookie cutter too unless you are going for sorb then a tgods would be a good choice. If you have read any other bone necro guide you have probably seen these items at the top of the list and if you didn't then those people didn't know what they were talking about. Not saying you did a bad job b/c the gear choices are good it's just that they ARE "cookie cutter" items.

Actually Marrow's aren't used as often due to the fact that there are better boots out there. Also a White wand is only used in necro vs. necro duels. Most of the other time people use either Hoto's or wiz's.

2.0
01-03-2008, 04:01 AM
Actually Marrow's aren't used as often due to the fact that there are better boots out there. Also a White wand is only used in necro vs. necro duels. Most of the other time people use either Hoto's or wiz's.
I use Suicide branch and Wiz. :D


Yeah..uh, not that great of a guide.

Hella hard to read as well, the format is awful. :/

Belhemel
01-03-2008, 04:15 AM
Actually Marrow's aren't used as often due to the fact that there are better boots out there. Also a White wand is only used in necro vs. necro duels. Most of the other time people use either Hoto's or wiz's.

I have seen plenty of peeps out there use marrows and just the same I was pointing out that those items mentioned were in fact mostly cookie cutter items that he said he wouldn't list.

2.0
01-03-2008, 04:17 AM
I have seen plenty of peeps out there use marrows and just the same I was pointing out that those items mentioned were in fact mostly cookie cutter items that he said he wouldn't list.
If you can get some high stats on them, they are some nice boots.

I do prefer treks though. (Decent stats + Fhr)

Belhemel
01-03-2008, 04:19 AM
If you can get some high stats on them, they are some nice boots.

I do prefer treks though. (Decent stats + Fhr)

Well true that treks are definitely a great choice.

Sgt-Tancred
01-03-2008, 06:21 PM
This guide sucks: pls do me a favor never do a guide again !

DarkPrinceLoki
01-05-2008, 06:06 AM
This guide sucks: pls do me a favor never do a guide again !

wow Sarge, that was brutal. but yes i have to agree, it lacks alot. Think not just from your point of view, think from a readers point of view or even the world's most unlucky noob's POV. there are somethings that might not be pliable, like the equipment choices, list alternatives for certain senarios.

one thing i do like is the links to the item info pages, which may be something i add to my guide to save the time in going into detail over items. and speaking of which you missed a few links.

alzo us goud engrish :)

Ayliffe
01-05-2008, 07:06 AM
Actually Marrow's aren't used as often due to the fact that there are better boots out there. Also a White wand is only used in necro vs. necro duels. Most of the other time people use either Hoto's or wiz's.

Personally i say use Marrow's if you're going to max block, every point of Dex helps, plus the strength helps a ton.

As for White, its 100% NvN thats it. Use Hoto, Wiz against sorc's for that huge res.