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aznmatt001
03-04-2008, 02:58 AM
im not much of a PvP r=person...but ppl tell me 2 stop bm...cuz i use my smiter that uses grief etc....wat exactly is BMing?
September 28, 1987
03-04-2008, 03:24 AM
Bad manners that puts the other player at an disadvantage.
Don't worry about the Grief on a smiter complaint, seems like you're fine there.
But bone prison against a melee only, items that add life tap, massive elemental damage, etc are looked at as BM.
Massive Ele Damage you say? I thought it was all of the above Prebuffs And Healing?
September 28, 1987
03-04-2008, 03:57 AM
Massive Ele Damage you say? I thought it was all of the above Prebuffs And Healing?
Those too.
Elemental damage for melee, yes.
Mmm Never Heared of that one Mmmmm
Oh and Holy Freeze O;
Nosferatu
03-04-2008, 04:35 AM
Ele Damage?
How much is considered massive? I've never heard of that before... D:
Ele damage isn't BM.
Usually over 200 poison (from charms) is considered BM though...usually just in BvB or bow vs bow.
Bone Prison isn't also largely considered BM...as it's allowed in TPK...but I consider it BM.
CTC lifetap is bm
More then one item of one type of absorb is BM
Holy Freeze (this includes Doom)
Decriptify
Slow (though 10% from Nos coil is usually accepted...I believe it's still BM though...slow is slow)
Slow missle
Prebuffing
Using health/rejuv pots
Shrining/welling
Not saying 'go' before a duel
There's a few more generally accepted rules...
Archerdoom
03-04-2008, 06:04 AM
I personally am pretty flexible about BMing, like slow missles and deciprify is ok with me, but I can't stand it when people pot >_<
Nosferatu
03-04-2008, 08:03 AM
SLOW MISSLES IS NOT NICE!!!a
Ele damage isn't BM.
Usually over 200 poison (from charms) is considered BM though...usually just in BvB or bow vs bow.
Bone Prison isn't also largely considered BM...as it's allowed in TPK...but I consider it BM.
CTC lifetap is bm
More then one item of one type of absorb is BM
Holy Freeze (this includes Doom)
Decriptify
Slow (though 10% from Nos coil is usually accepted...I believe it's still BM though...slow is slow)
Slow missle
Prebuffing
Using health/rejuv pots
Shrining/welling
Not saying 'go' before a duel
There's a few more generally accepted rules...
Elemental damage in Melee Vs Melee (Especially Zeal vs Zeal) is Bm.
I personally am pretty flexible about BMing, like slow missles and deciprify is ok with me, but I can't stand it when people pot >_<
Slow missiles is one of the worst in my opinion, it almost destroys your character, you have to resort to telebombing to even have a chance to get a hit.
kwittstruck
03-04-2008, 10:22 PM
I've also heard that Bone Spirit is bm, but i dont see how it is as one can usually out run it or tele out of range/
I've also heard that Bone Spirit is bm, but i dont see how it is as one can usually out run it or tele out of range/
It's only Bm in Nec Vs Nec.
Not even sure why, but people get mad when you use it...so, yeah.
September 28, 1987
03-04-2008, 10:34 PM
Ele damage isn't BM.
Usually over 200 poison (from charms) is considered BM though...usually just in BvB or bow vs bow.
Basically, same thing. And I said 'massive'. Like 37x 451's.
Bone Prison isn't also largely considered BM...as it's allowed in TPK...but I consider it BM.
Depends on who you are facing.
Oilerfan
03-05-2008, 01:26 AM
todd likes lil boys
K you can gtfo.
Tired of your retard remarks.
Nosferatu
03-05-2008, 02:01 AM
K you can gtfo.
Tired of your retard remarks.
Vouch.
kwittstruck
03-05-2008, 05:58 AM
As many times as hes been reported, 2 times that i know of. all that i guess has happened is loss of credits and maybe a worning. wheres that ban at?
aznmatt001
03-06-2008, 02:53 AM
isnt inturrupting BO bm also?
Zarley
03-06-2008, 03:28 AM
isnt inturrupting BO bm also?
Yes. Although that should really fall under the category of "wait till your opponent says 'Go'"
Yar... It Should
And I am
<--Check Age Anyone?
It appears I have made a Enemy One of Which cannot type to save his ***...
*Sigh*
K you can gtfo.
Tired of your retard remarks.
First now? Havn't you seen his remarks since he joined up? They have all been pretty much the same...
dainbramage
03-06-2008, 06:33 AM
IMO, people complain too much about something they don't know how to beat.
Pots/shrines
Excessive absorb (to the degree where your opponent can't hurt you)
Lifetap charges depending on the duel.
necrosis
03-10-2008, 01:14 AM
i knwo a couple that i did when i playe dmulti player.
using iron maiden on a barbarian ( they hate that)
after a barb says stop you decrepy them into your skellys and use maiden ( id di this one alot:rolleyes:)
casting lifetap aswell.
using the super slow with a zealer( back in classic) maxed holy freeze and generals tan do li ga.
using hurricane when dueling a ''huricane druid''
an assassin using Clock
a barbarian using leap
a smiter in a melee only duel
i have evn heard one about using fade because of the 20% decrease
dainbramage
03-10-2008, 10:04 AM
i knwo a couple that i did when i playe dmulti player.
using iron maiden on a barbarian ( they hate that)
after a barb says stop you decrepy them into your skellys and use maiden ( id di this one alot:rolleyes:)
casting lifetap aswell.
using hurricane when dueling a ''huricane druid''
an assassin using Clock
a barbarian using leap
a smiter in a melee only duel
i have evn heard one about using fade because of the 20% decrease
In order,
-berserk
-Whirl will kill if he's using decrep alone. Otherwise, bait the summoner into thinking you're about to whirl, then zerk when he casts IM
-lifetap is 900% useless on a summoner
-retarded
-retarded
-retarded
-annoying, ww > smiters though, if you count whirl as melee, which you probably don't. That said, zealot vs zealot is about the single most pointless duelling I can imagine, the smiter would make life interesting, 7 zealots vs 1 smiter?
-retarded
Ones labeled retarded are on par with asking a barb not to use whirlwind.
necrosis
03-10-2008, 10:37 AM
if you decrep a barbarian in a whirl wind he cant use berserk or can he? thats when you maiden them. also the casting lifetap wasnt meant for a summoner in a duel i was talking in general about smiters and son bowers ive dueled that use LT....... how come you didnt review the slow smiter?:confused:
SarG3
03-10-2008, 11:59 AM
Yar... It Should
And I am
<--Check Age Anyone?
It appears I have made a Enemy One of Which cannot type to save his ***...
*Sigh*
Indeed this Enemy you Have made Sure cannot Type worth a Crap, Guess you Should teach Him a Lesson.
LOL
Valdorin
03-10-2008, 01:34 PM
So pretty much all curses are Bad Manners...Battle Orders/Command is always allowed when I duel because it's become such a regular thing.
Yesca159
03-11-2008, 09:43 PM
WOW you guys are picky, the only thing that is "BM" is nking everything else is part of the game and if your good enough you can get around it.
hiya-warrior
06-29-2008, 08:36 AM
i am a bm pvper.
aznmatt001
06-29-2008, 10:59 PM
WOW you guys are picky, the only thing that is "BM" is nking everything else is part of the game and if your good enough you can get around it.
anyways. when i go duel. there is a whole bunch of cry babies telling me i bm too much.
Barloc
07-01-2008, 11:19 AM
People that cry BM the most are always those characters that are inherently weaker and/or easily overcome that join pubs.
I think it's silly that people want to try force others to weaken themselves so they can beat you. If you wanna PvP then pick a class/build that's successful. Get good or gtfo.
hiya-warrior
07-02-2008, 08:54 PM
People that cry BM the most are always those characters that are inherently weaker and/or easily overcome that join pubs.
I think it's silly that people want to try force others to weaken themselves so they can beat you. If you wanna PvP then pick a class/build that's successful. Get good or gtfo.
i love you now.. i used to hate you.. but i am in love with you now.. you think EXACTLY like me.. thank you.. my life is complete.. that was NOT sarcasm either.
Omnicide
07-02-2008, 08:56 PM
Except Barloc hates LT smiters as much as I do. o;
hiya-warrior
07-02-2008, 08:59 PM
thats cuz you dont know how to take em.
Omnicide
07-02-2008, 09:00 PM
A LT telesmiter there isn't much you CAN do.
hiya-warrior
07-02-2008, 09:10 PM
yes there is :|
Omnicide
07-02-2008, 09:16 PM
A good telesmiter will be on you. You can Whirl away, but their LT heals them...and when they telesmite well...they will get a hit off, replenishing their life. Clipping would work if they stayed stationary, but they don't. O_o
hiya-warrior
07-02-2008, 09:18 PM
Ever hear of desynch?
ya.. i know how to make it happen on a WW barb :O
Omnicide
07-02-2008, 09:20 PM
So do I, but you need about 125+ FRW to pull it off...and it only works on long WWs.
hiya-warrior
07-02-2008, 09:22 PM
Lol?
No It Doesnt
Omnicide
07-02-2008, 09:24 PM
Orly?
Explain it then.
hiya-warrior
07-02-2008, 09:27 PM
You leap.. acroos the screen, so that it takes about a second to finish.. then Ww right away.. then reapeat again.. and the second WW will desynch.
Omnicide
07-02-2008, 09:53 PM
How the **** would that work? Leap doesn't increase in speed, nor does it fail at being tracked by the server. Desyncs usually require one server to not pick up how fast the character is going. O_o
hiya-warrior
07-02-2008, 09:54 PM
or dont belive the diablo2 master.
Omnicide
07-02-2008, 09:54 PM
Ok. That option seems pretty easy.
hiya-warrior
07-02-2008, 09:56 PM
im actually serious though. leap + WW + leap + WW = WW desynch.
Omnicide
07-02-2008, 10:00 PM
Comparing to how EVERY other class desyncs it doesn't logically make sense though.
Leap+WW+Leap+WW...it would be a lot simpler to do one long WW desync.
theOG22093
07-02-2008, 10:01 PM
WOW you guys are picky, the only thing that is "BM" is nking everything else is part of the game and if your good enough you can get around it.
Let's see you get around a good sorbing Bvc with a Hybrid sin.
And ALL mods are bad mannered, and aren't part of the game.
Nosferatu
07-02-2008, 10:41 PM
Let's see you get around a good sorbing Bvc with a Hybrid sin.
And ALL mods are bad mannered, and aren't part of the game.
Well, if you are gfg at ww vs ww....
theOG22093
07-02-2008, 10:51 PM
Well, if you are gfg at ww vs ww....
As long as the Bvc is decent, it ain't happening.
Nosferatu
07-03-2008, 03:00 AM
As long as the Bvc is decent, it ain't happening.
I do see.
Barloc
07-03-2008, 03:37 AM
i love you now.. i used to hate you.. but i am in love with you now.. you think EXACTLY like me.. thank you.. my life is complete.. that was NOT sarcasm either.
Thanks.:) But I gotta ask, did we mince words or something cause I don't recall any past conflicts:confused:
Peace
Except Barloc hates LT smiters as much as I do. o;
Actually it's not LT that I have issue with generally. Skilled tele/smite with holy freeze.... Then really, any increased speed you have is worthless. And, unless they use doom, I'm not sure how that's done unless they skill swap like crazy or tele with merc.
Omnicide
07-03-2008, 04:12 AM
Well it wouldn't necessarily be worthless...since if you took it off you'd be a LOT slower. I guess in that case Doom could be used so that things are an "even" playing field again.
Legendary Slasher
07-03-2008, 06:23 AM
I think its totally BM when ppl kill you when ur gettin body then they think they are the best... so ***
When u are dueling and barely won the the fight then some noob shoots a Fball (any other skill) and kills you and claims a win
dainbramage
07-03-2008, 12:26 PM
Actually it's not LT that I have issue with generally. Skilled tele/smite with holy freeze.... Then really, any increased speed you have is worthless. And, unless they use doom, I'm not sure how that's done unless they skill swap like crazy or tele with merc.
Your RMB looks like
HF (wait for cold ping) --> tele --> fanat
AFAIK, barbs can still take even LT and HF telesmiters. There are some videos of it on youtube somewhere (by mainaman iirc, but I may well be wrong).
Also, it's impossible for a smiter to actually hit a barb with high frw (excepting blind teleporting and hoping you land infront of the desynched barb) unless they actually use HF. So I'd take out your anger on LT, not HF.
Supster
07-03-2008, 09:26 PM
I think its totally BM when ppl kill you when ur gettin body then they think they are the best... so ***
What about legit NK?
What about legit NK?
Thats totally GM.
Just after you kill them say "Sorry, didn't mean too."
dainbramage
07-04-2008, 02:48 AM
This works especially well with auradins. Taking their gold shows that you're sorry, as well. It's like cleaning up after the mess you made.
Omnicide
07-04-2008, 03:00 AM
Don't give it back to them either, because that just shows you don't think they're worth anything. Keeping their gold is a huge compliment.
Crimson-tide
07-04-2008, 06:07 AM
Everybody who posted is absolutely wrong. Bming is when you beat someone so bad, they find something to complain about and then call it BM.
On a more serious note, bming besides are few things that have been listed (healing, mass poison on melee, ect.) are using abilities/items that hinder an enemies ability to fight you at their maximum potential.
dainbramage
07-04-2008, 06:49 AM
On a more serious note, bming besides are few things that have been listed (healing, mass poison on melee, ect.) are using abilities/items that hinder an enemies ability to fight you at their maximum potential.
So I shouldn't fireball my opponent, because he cant fight at his maximum potential when he's dead, right?
Omnicide
07-04-2008, 07:00 AM
The point of dueling is to not kill your opponent and you both become friends, joining together to fight the monsters.
dainbramage
07-04-2008, 07:43 AM
The point of dueling is to not kill your opponent and you both become friends, joining together to fight the monsters.
YES! Now, we need to campaign to legalize weed.
Meh, too much effort. I think I'll sleep instead.
Crimson-tide
07-05-2008, 02:51 PM
So I shouldn't fireball my opponent, because he cant fight at his maximum potential when he's dead, right?
Obviously.
Pagellini
07-23-2009, 07:26 PM
how is decrep and slow missles bm
it slows?
ppl always prebuff just watch some vids on youtube
Oilerfan
07-23-2009, 08:20 PM
how is decrep and slow missles bm
it slows?
ppl always prebuff just watch some vids on youtube
Those people are jokes.
Omnicide
07-24-2009, 03:11 AM
Those people are jokes.This
Rotta
07-24-2009, 02:46 PM
how is decrep and slow missles bm
it slows?
It cripples your opponents ability to fight, totally.
As would items such as "white rings". :P
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