uncommon drop?

[jrob624]

I was running pits and Mephisto with my lvl 82 barbarian. On One drop for Mephy I hit Three Uniques. How uncommon is this sort of drop? Has anyone ever hit more than three?

[torchohanger]

Eh, I've hit A LOT of random crap.

i've gotten 2 hexfires in the same sitting, not really random but they had the exact same stats

I've gotten 2 uniques and 2 set pieces from hell andy

thats about it

[jrob624]

yesterday doing about 30 minutes of runs i think i hit close to 10 uniques. No Elite items but about 1/2 and 1/2 normal and exceptional items .... that i have to make new characters to use now.

[Pigeon Poop]

With Bosses, they can drop up to 3 uniques on 1 drop.




Eh, I've hit A LOT of random crap.

i've gotten 2 hexfires in the same sitting, not really random but they had the exact same stats

I've gotten 2 uniques and 2 set pieces from hell andy

thats about it


You may want to check that. Only one unique of each can drop during a game.

[torchohanger]

Don't know what to tell you, it might have been glitched but I got 2 in one, and i might have a screenie somewhere

[jjscud]

With Bosses, they can drop up to 3 uniques on 1 drop.


Most bosses can drop up to 6 uniques at once.

[Habit88]

i coulda sworn i got 4 or 5 of mephy before.

[Skullcaptain]

I only encountered up to 4 uniques in my d2 game play =/

[Pigeon Poop]

Most bosses can drop up to 6 uniques at once.



Monsters and bosses are capped at a 6 item drop. I would like to see some data showing that these can all be uniques. That would be an impressive drop.

[HiTS]

I've had a five drop from meph, but it was a mixture of sets and uniques.

[jjscud]

Monsters and bosses are capped at a 6 item drop. I would like to see some data showing that these can all be uniques. That would be an impressive drop.

First about drops in general


Our "Act1 (H) H2H B" Treasure Class has these important properties: group=7, level=66, picks=1, NoDrop=100, Item1=gld, Prob1=21, Item2=Act 1 (H) Equip B, Prob2=16, Item3=Act 1 (H) Junk, Prob3=21, Item4=Act 1 (H) Good, Prob4=2, where:
group = TC group
level = TC level
picks = number of drop cycles
NoDrop = probability of no drop
Item1-10 = TC or item type
Prob1-10 = probability (frequency) of appropriate TC or item type

In our case, Devilkin will drop:
no item with probability 100/160, (160 is the sum of all frequencies here)
gold with probability 121/160,
an item/TC from TC "Act 1 (H) Equip B" with probability 16/160 (armors and weapons),
an item/TC from TC "Act 1 (H) Junk" with probability 21/160 (potions, ammo, keys etc.)
and an item/TC from TC "Act 1 (H) Good" with probability 2/160 (runes,amulets,jewels,charms).

Ok, the important point in there is the bolded part, if an item is in a TreasureClass then there is always a possibility of it dropping. So the question is, does Baal (and the other bosses) have a single TC or a different TC for each pick.

The answer:


Nihlathak (H)
Baal
Baal (N)
Baal (H)
Baalq
Baalq (N)
Baalq (H)
Blood Raven


Well, there are 6 different TC's there for Baal but there's a quest set and a normal set and only one is ever in play.

So, when you Kill Meph, Baal, or Diablo (i didn't bother to check how Duriels TP scroll or some andariel oddities came into play) the same TC is used for all six picks and there is a chance of it coming from an equipment TC (armor and weapons) for each pick and a chance for each of those to unique.

So, there is a chance for all 6 picks to end up unique.

ATMA (which reads from the game data files) puts it at a 64% chance of each pick selecting an item that could potentially be unique. Over 6 picks that's a 6.78% chance of selecting all items that could possibly be unique. After that you've still got to roll unique for each item and not hit any items that don't have unique versions. So, the odds are very slim but perfectly possible.

[jrob624]

Nice answer to the unique drop question. I will keep looking for that 4 + uniques drop.

[Pigeon Poop]

That is a very good answer. Nice research. I tried looking into that myself yesterday, but I got called away.

But it still doesnt answer the question of; "Can a Monster/Boss drop 6 uniques?" All you really have answered is what that drop calc states, not whether its possible.

Good work, though.

[Habit88]

So, the odds are very slim but perfectly possible.

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[jjscud]

That is a very good answer. Nice research. I tried looking into that myself yesterday, but I got called away.

But it still doesnt answer the question of; "Can a Monster/Boss drop 6 uniques?" All you really have answered is what that drop calc states, not whether its possible.

Good work, though.

Uh, yes I did answer it. Baal picks each of the 6 picks from his own TC, equipment (armor + weapons) is part of that TC so all 6 items have the possibility of being unique.

[safetypro]

Gratz on your nice drop. Pray tell, what'cha get?

[jrob624]

on my 3 unique drop I recieved dark clan crusher, carn shard and string of ears. not too shabby but nothing spectacular.

[Taurean]

I`ve had a Scroll of Town Portal dropped from Mephisto once, and a Greater healing potion from Duriel. That was the first and last time i ran Duriel x)