View Full Version : WC barbs one of the hardest chars to be good at?
kenji51590
02-03-2008, 05:04 AM
My wc barb does about 2k w/105 fcr.. but gets pwned badly :[
i namelock tele wc then tele away and come back again and keep this up
but it seems that i cant get people stunned long enough to do any real dmg
If anyone is an expert on wc barbs or had advice plz input and knowledge here would be great :]
dieuglydie
02-03-2008, 05:20 AM
My wc barb does about 2k w/105 fcr.. but gets pwned badly :[
i namelock tele wc then tele away and come back again and keep this up
but it seems that i cant get people stunned long enough to do any real dmg
If anyone is an expert on wc barbs or had advice plz input and knowledge here would be great :]
well to start off what lvl war cry do you have. From the guides I've seen about WC barbs, they suggest you get to 200fcr due to WC is blockable. And to get as much fhr as possible. FCR mana rings are your friend too. Not just soj's.
Omnicide
02-03-2008, 03:17 PM
Yeah, 200 FCR is really the target if you want to keep people in stun lock. Some may be able to do it with 105, but 200 is just safer.
Dieugly pretty much asked the most important things.
Level of WCs
Amount of FHR
Res, possibly? (You didn't specify what pwns you so...I'm taking a crack at this one.)
kenji51590
02-04-2008, 07:47 AM
mine is at lvl 46 res is 75+ on all
fhr is only 50 for now i will get the 86 or whatever that bp is
oh and all melee and casters beat me.. said i know
dainbramage
02-04-2008, 10:21 AM
Get the 200fcr breakpoint if you want to have a chance at stunlocking anyone. With 7 frame casts, anyone without max block will have to walk out, chaining teles will stunlock these guys pretty well and should net you some kills. Yes this necessitates dual-wizspikes, so your damage will suffer (or alternatively vipermagi and a tele ammy).
Max block essentially screws over a WC barb. 7 frame, low, short-range, blockable physical damage does not lead to being a strong killer against max block. The stunlock also isn't too noticeable when applied every 28 frames - there's a decent chance your opponent can out-tank you.
Zarley
02-04-2008, 04:19 PM
As the others have mentioned, WarCry is just OWNED by blocking.
It's a bug in the skill IMO.. there is no reason why it should be blockable when Tornado, Mind Blast, Psychic Hammer, Blessed Hammer, Shockwave, etc. can't be blocked. Hell, you can't block SMITE.
WarCry just got the shaft from Blizz.
Omnicide
02-04-2008, 04:47 PM
I think Blizzard was asleep and switched the pros that should have been War Cry onto Smite. ;P
Yeah...Smite is easily the spoiled brat of physical damage skills.
SarG3
02-04-2008, 09:49 PM
Yeah..I dont see how something physical like smite,hammers(hence I know they are magic but I mean..they are still sort of physical..), MB, and other stuff cannot be blocked. While something you scream can be blocked easily?
Maybe Blizzard didnt want to make the barbarian too powerful with WC and WW. But of course they made Paladins the bread and butter with all the gg skills(smite,Hammers,Foh,Auras, etc)
Paladin bias company imo.
Barloc
02-05-2008, 01:25 AM
Well, there are plenty of skills that are player vs monster based, this skill just happens to be another one of them.
Omnicide
02-05-2008, 01:55 AM
Heh...in 8 player games, WC isn't so effective in PvM though, while the other skills still do. D: (Except immunities and the like.)
Barloc
02-06-2008, 01:41 AM
I didn't mean PvM for damage. I meant PvM for stun.
Omnicide
02-06-2008, 06:39 PM
Yeah well...your mom is meant PvM for stun. >_>;;
I totally knew that. D:
The Son Of Disaster
03-09-2008, 08:24 AM
Use Doom Axe with a Spirit Monarch. :)
That'll slow em down.
Cryers are hard and require tons of funds to get right and alot of practice. Keep at it thought I think with alot of work they can be one of the best.
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