I think my Light Sorc sucks...

[Archerdoom]

I don't know, I've made her pretty solid, but she just doesn't seem to stack up. I see light sorcs lower than me that do more damage.
She's level 84, does about 10k light and 6k chain light. I've maxed CL, L, Nova, LM, and I'm currently in the process of maxing CB.
Maybe it's my gear? I have a spirit monarch, spirit broad sword (or w/e the exceptional version is), Vipermagi, Magefist, some ammy that gives +1 to sorc skills and some mf, and just some mfing rings, and aldurs boots.
Unfortunately thats only +6 to all skills total, is this good?

[N V]

it gets the job done. i ran around with 10k light dmg for a long time with a similar setup like you. when i got a sorc torch it helped tons on damage. if the amu is a plain 1 sorc skills try to get a 3 light instead, and what helm are you using? shako?

[Pigeon Poop]

Get an Infinity. I have a light/fire sorc that does half your damage and she owns.

My Sorc is 91 and only does 9400 light and 4400 chain. Add in the Infinity and that damage becomes devastating. It's all about lowering that light resist. 10K is decent damage, you get an Infinity and badguys will drop fast.
Your + skills will only help. 6 needs to go up, but it isn't that bad. A torch will make it 9.

Trade the Spirit sword for a Light Tals. A Maras or Tal ammy is a good idea too. If you can afford it a CoH Dusk Shroud.

That isn't a bad build you have there. You are right on par for an 84, now just get your gear upgraded. These sorcs that are lower level than you may have the better gear.

[Zarley]

Skill charms are available at level 42, so sorcs that are much lower level may have dramatically more +skills than you.

Also, if your Spirits are less than perfect, you may not be hitting the Lightning/Chain Lightning breakpoint. You need 117 FCR for that, so the combined FCR on your Spirits needs to be 67. I wouldn't swap the spirit weapon for a Tals orb for that reason.

I'd get a helm with +skills too. Shako is excellent for MFing, but if you can't get one you should be able to track down a Tarnhelm for pgems.

[Belhemel]

Let's start with skills. Charged Bolt should be maxed way before Nova as this will be your boss and unique killer. CoH is better for a light sorc than Viper and you also need an eschuta for your weapon. Those two will make a difference but you also have to remember the people that are lower levels than you are may have already had end game setup ready for them. There are lots of things you can do like getting light GC's and trying to get a griffons eye all making you better but the one thing you really need is a Infinity on your merc like pidgeon said. That polearm will single-handedly make your sorc so much better.

A lightning oriented tals orb is good but lets compare with eschutas:

Eschuta's Orb

+1-3 To Sorceress Skill Levels (varies)
+40% Faster Cast Rate
+10-20% To Fire Skill Damage (varies)
+10-20% To Lightning Skill Damage (varies)
+20-30 To Energy (varies)


Tals Orb

20% Faster Cast Rate
+77 To Mana
+57 To Life
+10 To Energy
+1-2 To Lightning Mastery (Sorceress Only) (varies)
+1-2 To Fire Mastery (Sorceress Only) (varies)
+1-2 To Cold Mastery (Sorceress Only) (varies)
+1 To Sorceress Skill Levels (2 Items)
-15% To Enemy Fire Resistance (3 Items)
-15% To Enemy Lightning Resistance (4 Items)

The items marked in red are what you are looking for on these items.

As you can see while an eschutas may vary on sorc skills you have a definite 40% fcr and a possible 10% to 20% to damage. Tals is much cheaper so you have to make the call. If you are going to run with tals ammy then you get the +1 skills bonus but no negative light res to enemies unless you use at least 4 pieces. While tals may be good for some it is not that great for a light sorc. Even if you get one with +2 to light mastery and use four pieces of tals to get the neg res and +1 to skills you can see that the eschuta is better but hold out for one with near perf stats.

Using four pieces of tals to get the neg light res isn't worth it imo but if you have the Infinity you probably wont go for that combo anyway. Spirit is probably the best shield you can get unless you have a four socketed shield with 5/-5 light dies in it but with the gear you listed you probably don't or can't afford. The only thing I can say is keep mf'ing and keep trading away. Eventually you will have all the gear to either deck this sorc out or to remake her. Either way it is only a matter of time. Here is a list of what I used on my sorc last ladder.

Helm: +2 sorc circlet with a few random mods(had some res and others)
Armor: MP CoH(most people use Dusk Shroud for more def but I like MP for looks)
Gloves: Magefist(Faster cast and some regen what's not to like here)
Shield: Perfect Spirit(had to make about 10 of em before I got a perf one)
Boots: War Travelers(I like the mf on em)
Weapon: +3 skills light Eschuta(had to trade some good stuff for it but it was worth it)
Rings:Two perf Nagels(Again for mfing purposes and easy to find)
Ammy:Mara's(Near perfect)
Belt:Arachnid(fcr and +1 to skills this is a must)

I also had some mf charms, a couple light charms, a torch,anni and res charms too. My merc used Crown of Thieves, Leviathan Armor, and an Infinity.

[cthulhu dawn127]

for the shield and the gloves id say youre set. V magi is nice enough but COH would be better, the sword i would switch out for a 3 skills whatever + lightning eschutas if you can afford, if not tal's works. For the boots i would go with treks for the extra vit and the belt arachs for the skill and fcr. for helm i'd say shako for now and the amulet at least try to get a 3 to lightning then work your way up to mara's

[Archerdoom]

At my current state, who do you think I should mf? I have horrible mf, that won't help, but I guess I've got to start somewhere.

[September 28, 1987]

Start with the bosses (except Duriel) and the Pit.

Those work pretty well imo.

[dainbramage]

I'd use a spirit over a set-less tals orb. It only becomes somewhat of a competition once you have 4-piece tals, and then it's still a toss-up.

Contrary to seemingly popular opinion here, vipermagi utterly destroys CoH in offensive performance on armour. The FCR on vipermagi will far outstrip the extra skill, res or strength that CoH has to offer.

[N V]

agreed! i never understood the use of CoH on a sorc. just seems very wrong when you can use viper.

another option is using cresent moon. it doesnt give any skills or fcr, but it gives -35% light res.

[DG.Havok]

I would recommend vmagi also. Helps a lot to hit that 105 bp. Magefist + arach + vmagi + p spirit = 105 fcr.

Now you can be flexible on the weapon or go crazy and hit the 200 fcr bp. But you would need a lot for that. Would need like an eschuta, 20 fcr ammy, 20 fcr helm, and 2 fcr rings.

[®@þþ3¬]

I'd use a spirit over a set-less tals orb. It only becomes somewhat of a competition once you have 4-piece tals, and then it's still a toss-up.

Contrary to seemingly popular opinion here, vipermagi utterly destroys CoH in offensive performance on armour. The FCR on vipermagi will far outstrip the extra skill, res or strength that CoH has to offer.

Agreed. Viper is THE best sorc armor. Hands down

[Belhemel]

There are arguments for both but I was able to hit the 105 fcr bp while using CoH so the extra skill point, md reduc, res and mf worked out better for me. However having said that Viper is definitely NOT a bad choice here. It is probably hands down the best caster armor you can get for your money or items if you traded those to get it.

[theOG22093]

agreed! i never understood the use of CoH on a sorc. just seems very wrong when you can use viper.

another option is using cresent moon. it doesnt give any skills or fcr, but it gives -35% light res.

How bout for the 2skills and 65 resistances?

[®@þþ3¬]

There are arguments for both but I was able to hit the 105 fcr bp while using CoH so the extra skill point, md reduc, res and mf worked out better for me. However having said that Viper is definitely NOT a bad choice here. It is probably hands down the best caster armor you can get for your money or items if you traded those to get it.

Wouldnt you want to go 117 fcr since lightning/chain lightning has different fcr bps than other sorc attacks?

[VenomPhantom]

i think that viper isnt the best armor its Ormus Robes

+10-20 Defense (varies)
+20% Faster Cast Rate <--------
+10-15% To Cold Skill Damage (varies)
+10-15% To Fire Skill Damage (varies)
+10-15% To Lightning Skill Damage (varies) <-----------
+3 bonus to a random Sorceress skill (Sorceress Only)* <------- (could get cl or synergy)
Regenerate Mana 10-15% (varies)

plus a +5/-5 lightening facet and u have viper + 15-20% lightenin dmg and +3 skills

[N V]

Viper har res, more fcr than Ormus and 1 all skills. Ormus has less fcr, some +% dmg and 3 specific skill. It's safity or damage ;)

[saracen85]

@venomphantom

do note that the +%dmg stacks on top of your fire/lightning mastery, so the damage increase wouldn't be that much significant, unless you're a cold sorc..

and +skills to synergy doesn't add any damage to your primary skill.

[aznmatt001]

Let's start with skills. Charged Bolt should be maxed way before Nova as this will be your boss and unique killer. CoH is better for a light sorc than Viper and you also need an eschuta for your weapon. Those two will make a difference but you also have to remember the people that are lower levels than you are may have already had end game setup ready for them. There are lots of things you can do like getting light GC's and trying to get a griffons eye all making you better but the one thing you really need is a Infinity on your merc like pidgeon said. That polearm will single-handedly make your sorc so much better.

A lightning oriented tals orb is good but lets compare with eschutas:

Eschuta's Orb

+1-3 To Sorceress Skill Levels (varies)
+40% Faster Cast Rate
+10-20% To Fire Skill Damage (varies)
+10-20% To Lightning Skill Damage (varies)
+20-30 To Energy (varies)


Tals Orb

20% Faster Cast Rate
+77 To Mana
+57 To Life
+10 To Energy
+1-2 To Lightning Mastery (Sorceress Only) (varies)
+1-2 To Fire Mastery (Sorceress Only) (varies)
+1-2 To Cold Mastery (Sorceress Only) (varies)
+1 To Sorceress Skill Levels (2 Items)
-15% To Enemy Fire Resistance (3 Items)
-15% To Enemy Lightning Resistance (4 Items)

The items marked in red are what you are looking for on these items.

As you can see while an eschutas may vary on sorc skills you have a definite 40% fcr and a possible 10% to 20% to damage. Tals is much cheaper so you have to make the call. If you are going to run with tals ammy then you get the +1 skills bonus but no negative light res to enemies unless you use at least 4 pieces. While tals may be good for some it is not that great for a light sorc. Even if you get one with +2 to light mastery and use four pieces of tals to get the neg res and +1 to skills you can see that the eschuta is better but hold out for one with near perf stats.

Using four pieces of tals to get the neg light res isn't worth it imo but if you have the Infinity you probably wont go for that combo anyway. Spirit is probably the best shield you can get unless you have a four socketed shield with 5/-5 light dies in it but with the gear you listed you probably don't or can't afford. The only thing I can say is keep mf'ing and keep trading away. Eventually you will have all the gear to either deck this sorc out or to remake her. Either way it is only a matter of time. Here is a list of what I used on my sorc last ladder.

Helm: +2 sorc circlet with a few random mods(had some res and others)
Armor: MP CoH(most people use Dusk Shroud for more def but I like MP for looks)
Gloves: Magefist(Faster cast and some regen what's not to like here)
Shield: Perfect Spirit(had to make about 10 of em before I got a perf one)
Boots: War Travelers(I like the mf on em)
Weapon: +3 skills light Eschuta(had to trade some good stuff for it but it was worth it)
Rings:Two perf Nagels(Again for mfing purposes and easy to find)
Ammy:Mara's(Near perfect)
Belt:Arachnid(fcr and +1 to skills this is a must)

I also had some mf charms, a couple light charms, a torch,anni and res charms too. My merc used Crown of Thieves, Leviathan Armor, and an Infinity.


u cant have MP coh...mp has cap of 3sockets. try ap though.

[dainbramage]

i think that viper isnt the best armor its Ormus Robes

I defy you to build a fire/light ormus based sorc (hitting relevant breakpoints) that outdamages a viper build. Not to mention viper has 35 extra res all over ormus. Pretty much the same for CoH, except it at least has 15 RA and 11 strength more than viper.

[Phoenix13]

I'd use a spirit over a set-less tals orb. It only becomes somewhat of a competition once you have 4-piece tals, and then it's still a toss-up.

Contrary to seemingly popular opinion here, vipermagi utterly destroys CoH in offensive performance on armour. The FCR on vipermagi will far outstrip the extra skill, res or strength that CoH has to offer.

If you are on useast nl, I got a free tal orb for you to complete your set. *crazy-jacan

[Belhemel]

u cant have MP coh...mp has cap of 3sockets. try ap though.

Ya I was thimking of my necro and his nigma there....

Wouldnt you want to go 117 fcr since lightning/chain lightning has different fcr bps than other sorc attacks?

Actually, no I didnt worry about it since she attacked fast enough, hoever I could be missing some fcr in there and may have had that last bp anyway.