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3DS
01-02-2008, 03:15 AM
Gold finding (gfing) or magic finding (mfing)...which do you prefer and why?

jaroalmonds
01-02-2008, 03:16 AM
mfing. cause if you dont like what you get you can always sell it for gold

3lite
01-02-2008, 03:16 AM
Magic Find

There are M-Items to be found much more rare then gold

Cheese
01-02-2008, 03:17 AM
gold finding fer sher.

NOT lol Magic find, dude.

blueflames
01-02-2008, 03:18 AM
MF, why get 20 gold extra for 20 guys( 4K) if you can get 2 magic(4K+) for 20 guys

Nosferatu
01-02-2008, 03:22 AM
Goldfind.

eZ / Fast Trav runs.

Getting 1mill every time ;)

3lite
01-02-2008, 03:26 AM
Goldfind.

eZ / Fast Trav runs.

Getting 1mill every time ;)

You don't get Travincial run everyday, do you?

Nosferatu
01-02-2008, 03:31 AM
You don't get Travincial run everyday, do you?


If I had a goldfind Barb i would...

They're like 2 minutes.

3DS
01-02-2008, 03:32 AM
Personally I've found GFing to be way more profitable than MFing. I mean you can do hundreds of MF runs without finding anything worth trading. But with GFing not only do you MF but you also collect gold which you can use to gamble items that can easily be traded.

I've even found that not only do I gain from the results of GFing (2/20/2 circs from gambling, etc) but I've also found way better items GFing then when I have MFing. For example I can't even remember a good item I've found while MFing...but I've found a 100% perfect eschutas, a vex and an ohm rune and a couple sojs among other things.

To me it just makes more sense to GF.

Enigma
01-02-2008, 03:33 AM
GF is good IF you can do it right, millions a day...

see, one occy is worth about 2-3 million gold, the trick is that there arent many who will sell occys for gold as many as puls

Baraccus
01-02-2008, 03:36 AM
mf gear= blues, yellows, golds, greens. In return will equal more gold.

gf gear= gold.

The only downside I see is having to return to town to sell items not wanted with the mf gear equipped, also having room in your stash to keep the higher end items :D

Enigma
01-02-2008, 03:37 AM
and also because u wont sell all the "blue yellow golds greens" you find

dieuglydie
01-02-2008, 03:48 AM
a gf barb capable of hell can also equip some descent mf. On mine i have around 2.2k gf and 400 mf. I've found many nice items with him. And gambled many more.

Nosferatu
01-02-2008, 03:50 AM
Druid is a n00b for getting pwnt by 3DS.

Skullcaptain
01-02-2008, 04:06 AM
MF for items.

GF for repair items and resurrect merc.

saracen85
01-02-2008, 05:27 AM
gf, cause gambled rares can be godly =)

God
01-02-2008, 07:52 AM
Magic find.

1) You get items for different purposes.
2) You get gold anyways.
3) Sell the items you find for gold.
4) You can do both at the same time.

Wallenberg
01-02-2008, 12:23 PM
Mf ofc but gf is nice for gambling as well! :D Lower Kurast <3

Tony
01-02-2008, 04:08 PM
Magic Finding is fun, and if you have certain items, the gold yielded directly from monsters is much greater (i.e. Mephisto's minions or the Travincal group).

Kakashi Hatake
01-02-2008, 05:46 PM
2/20/2 circs

ok ive been trying to figure out what the numbers in some items are but could nevr figure out how to word the question. ive seen ppl use 3 random sets of numbers to describe there items like charms and such but nvr knew wtf the were talkin about. someone plz enlighten me....and tell me how to spell enlighten :)

SkEpTiKaL
01-02-2008, 07:47 PM
I prefer to MF because I've always had bad experiences with gambling, but if you plan to become a high level, try out GF and gamble.

Belhemel
01-02-2008, 08:22 PM
Yza have to agree there as i kinda do both.

Sfx_
01-02-2008, 08:43 PM
Personally I've found GFing to be way more profitable than MFing. I mean you can do hundreds of MF runs without finding anything worth trading. But with GFing not only do you MF but you also collect gold which you can use to gamble items that can easily be traded.

I've even found that not only do I gain from the results of GFing (2/20/2 circs from gambling, etc) but I've also found way better items GFing then when I have MFing. For example I can't even remember a good item I've found while MFing...but I've found a 100% perfect eschutas, a vex and an ohm rune and a couple sojs among other things.

To me it just makes more sense to GF.

yea you have a point here especially if you can make huge ammounts of gold in one run , but also most of my best drops have been with my pking chars clearing blood moor to with friends in :P

kalenjder
01-02-2008, 09:21 PM
mf is best!!
what do you need money for?
- potions
- res merc
- repair
- tp scrolls
- gambling
thats not much money.

you have more need for good uniqes, if it`s a bad uniqe you can sell it and you get enough money of mf and uniqes can be traded to something you need.

Dlav123
01-02-2008, 09:25 PM
You know what you should do?
Make both a mfer and gfer and see which one you like better.
(this is for thread maker)

dieuglydie
01-02-2008, 11:15 PM
mf is best!!
what do you need money for?
- potions
- res merc
- repair
- tp scrolls
- gambling
thats not much money.

you have more need for good uniqes, if it`s a bad uniqe you can sell it and you get enough money of mf and uniqes can be traded to something you need.

if you want to gamble a lot, a gf char is your way to go. For me i can find 500k to 1 mill in 2 minutes. There is no way you can do that with a mf char.

laughingbuddha
01-02-2008, 11:28 PM
I do both.
MF have more options in the finding area, but GF can be very, very profitable. I just love gambling for circlets, rings, claws and amulets, and dont forget that any decent GF build have a decent MF percentage, so you can expect some additional bonuses.

3DS
01-03-2008, 03:04 AM
You know what you should do?
Make both a mfer and gfer and see which one you like better.
(this is for thread maker)

I do have both.

And as I said I've found it way more profitable to GF then MF.

Skullcaptain
01-03-2008, 05:03 AM
Well you can actually set or even unique items from vendor. I discovered about gambling set when I click on a ring while trading with Anya and she gave me a Cathan's ring. Not sure about unique.

Ya, if you got the money perhaps you can get Tal's ammy by a click

o.O

Belhemel
01-03-2008, 06:05 AM
Well you can actually set or even unique items from vendor. I discovered about gambling set when I click on a ring while trading with Anya and she gave me a Cathan's ring. Not sure about unique.

Ya, if you got the money perhaps you can get Tal's ammy by a click

o.O


These are the rules about gambling so yeah you can get uniques.



You will mostly get Magic items which may or may not be worth anything to you (hence Gambling).
You can Gamble Set or Unique Items and have the chance to Gamble Exceptional and Elite items as well. Gambling Items appear as Normal Items and can only be revealed as Exceptional or Elite Items after you buy them.
Gambling gives you a place to spend your money on the higher difficulty levels (Nightmare, Hell), and gives you a better chance at getting good Rare and if you're lucky, Set and Unique Exceptional and Elite items that you are looking for. You can also get rare rings and amulets from Gambling which can be more difficult to find from monsters.
Buying all of the items on one screen doesn't help to improve your chances any more than buying them one at a time per screen.
Items are created when you hit the Gamble button on the NPC menu.
You can reset the Gambling menu by exiting the screen, then by clicking on Gamble again. You can continue to do this rapidly until you get the specific type of item you're looking for.
Once you've unlocked all the item types at level 48, the items shown will be the same from then on. However, as you reach higher Character Levels, more Magic Prefixes and Suffixes will show up on items Gambled and you'll have a better chance to get Exceptional and Elite items.
The price for Gambling each item goes up as your character level goes up.
Magic Find in no way affects Gambling.

Skullcaptain
01-03-2008, 06:12 AM
My bad, I should say that only GF affects gambling. The more gold you have the chances of getting an item you desired for is high. :)

Belhemel
01-03-2008, 06:21 AM
You mean as in having the money to constantly buy stuf till you find what you want or that GF actually affects your chance to get better items. Because if you mean the latter it doesn't.

Skullcaptain
01-03-2008, 06:25 AM
Oh well... :(

Wallenberg
01-03-2008, 08:14 AM
Even if you collect like 50 million gold you could easy get nothing usefull at all at anya for an example.. With lots of mf you can have better luck finding some nice item.

skyeye
01-15-2008, 01:31 AM
mmm ok i have a question about chances to get a uniqe from a npc. is it around 1 out of every 200 items that u get a uniqe? if thats true and 1 out of every like 15 coronets is a diadem , 15x200= 3000. that would be the chance to get a uniqe diadem (aka griffons). with a trav run that would give (according to some) a million gold a game, and coronets are like 118k gold then i mean its alot faster to get a griffons like that correct? i mean u can buy counless diadems from the npcs, so long as u got the gold, while baaal very very rarely drops even a blue diadem.

Landau14
01-15-2008, 06:10 PM
Even if you collect like 50 million gold you could easy get nothing usefull at all at anya for an example.. With lots of mf you can have better luck finding some nice item.


No actually you don't. even with 500 the chances of getting a good unique are low low low.

It's your call. GF is good because you almost ALWAYS found gold, while MF sometimes you can find nothing for days. Sure, you can also gamble nothing for days too, but at least you DO get the gold. And of course, while GF you MF without excpecting, which is the best way to MF.

®@þþ3¬
01-15-2008, 06:32 PM
You can easily do both :)

skyeye
01-15-2008, 08:54 PM
Ok my friend said last night that they cut out the ability to gamble uniqes in version 1.11
However all I have palyed is 1.11, so why did I gamble uniqes? Also what Is the chance to get a uniqe from a npc?

dieuglydie
01-15-2008, 09:16 PM
Ok my friend said last night that they cut out the ability to gamble uniqes in version 1.11
However all I have palyed is 1.11, so why did I gamble uniqes? Also what Is the chance to get a uniqe from a npc?

From the b.net site, it says the chance is 1/2000 for uniques.

skyeye
01-15-2008, 10:55 PM
eww pretty far from like the 250 i once thought. however at like 50+ coronets bought a day that aitn to bad

MilkmanAl
01-16-2008, 12:10 AM
So...why not mf and gf at the same time? A Summoner can throw on a ton of goldfind gear (which also happens to bring quite a lot of mf with it) and tear through Travincal in around a minute. You'll reliably get 500k+ per run and a whole ton of magical items to boot.

For the record, 1 million gold is a bit of a stretch. I think the most I've ever gotten is something around 1.2 mil, and that was with some rather absurd drops by the council and 2 champ packs right next to the council, if I recall correctly

is it around 1 out of every 200 items that u get a uniqe? 1 in 2000 gambled items is unique. 1 in 1000 is a set.

skyeye
01-16-2008, 11:18 PM
So...why not mf and gf at the same time? A Summoner can throw on a ton of goldfind gear (which also happens to bring quite a lot of mf with it) and tear through Travincal in around a minute. You'll reliably get 500k+ per run and a whole ton of magical items to boot.

For the record, 1 million gold is a bit of a stretch. I think the most I've ever gotten is something around 1.2 mil, and that was with some rather absurd drops by the council and 2 champ packs right next to the council, if I recall correctly

1 in 2000 gambled items is unique. 1 in 1000 is a set.

A whole lot of MAGICAL items to boot huh? well theres our problem.Other than a select few helms I mf for uniqes, not plain magicals.

MilkmanAl
01-16-2008, 11:30 PM
"Magical items" is not the same thing as "magic items." The former means magic items (items with blue text names), rares, sets, and uniques. The latter only refers to the blues.

skyeye
01-16-2008, 11:44 PM
"Magical items" is not the same thing as "magic items." The former means magic items (items with blue text names), rares, sets, and uniques. The latter only refers to the blues.

lol im sry bro, i knew what ya ment i was just messign with ya.